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Paul

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This is the place where you can discuss issues of importance to you with other members.

Issues for discussion could include:

Different perspectives about hearing voices (such as psychological, spiritual, religious, psychiatric);

Issues concerning social integration and the stigma associated with hearing voices;

Ways of assisting people who hear voices and are troubled by them;

How to assist people in their recovery;

Hearing voices as part of a different way of being human;

The meaning of voices to society and the historicla significance of voices and voice hearers;

Or whatever you want!
 
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g261520

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Very new to learning about this. I need to know how to best help my 14 year old son deal with hearing voices. Any help/advice would be good. My son and I can communicate well but I don't want to say the wrong thing. I see how listening to great live music causes him to hear uninvited morbid/negative male voices (after the music is over) and in an every day situation, only an invited positive female voice may be present.
 
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SuperZ

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Mom,

Related Links: (Stretching the imagination)

--- Care, Medical, Technology --
Dr. Romme's Site (Hearing Voices Movement) http://intervoiceonline.org
There are two books written by Drs. Romme & Escher. One is called Accepting
Voices and the other is called Making Sense of Voices. You can probably get them
on Amazon used for next to nothing. http://www.amazon.com/s/field-keywords=romme+escher
Wikipedia, Hearing Voices Movement: http://tinyurl.com/3delqe
Yahoo Voice-Hearers Support Group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/voice-hearers/
Hearing Voices Network: http://www.hvn-usa.org/
Recovery by changing relationship with voices: http://tinyurl.com/yr8v3j
Coping Strategies Poster: http://www.hearingvoices.org.nz/attachments/079_HVNA_Coping_Stratigies_poster.pdf
Dr Rufus May's Recovery Story: http://tinyurl.com/39ghk8
Hearing Voices is normal: http://tinyurl.com/gpav5
National Alliance for the Mentally Ill: http://www.nami.org/
http://chat.healthyplace.com/
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/sym/hearing_voices.htm
Recovery without drugs: http://tinyurl.com/3dpszz
http://tribes.tribe.net/voicehearers/
http://www.dhvs.freeuk.com/carers.htm
http://www.alternativementalhealth.com
http://www.doctoryourself.com
http://www.alternative-doctor.com
http://www.vitamins-supplements.org
http://healingdrummer.com
http://spiritualemergency.blogspot.com/
http://eatforenergy.topcities.com
Free Dating Sites: http://ezmatchup.com/, http://www.nolongerlonely.com
Dissociative Disorders MPD FAQ: http://faqs.org/faqs/dissoc-faq/part1

"Psychiatric diagnoses are less reliable than star signs"
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/article6538213.ece

1. Smart Drugs, ADHD:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADHD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_drugs
http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/ohe/library/drugs/adderall.htm

2. Electrical Fields Effect on Plant and Cell life/growth:
http://www.4to40.com/QA/index.asp?id=3170&category=science

3. The Mauve Factor and oxidative stress- Woody McGinnis
http://forum.intervoiceonline.org/showthread.php?p=659&highlight=related+links#post659
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18383989

--- HOME REMEDY ---
Home Remedies: Banish Voices...
http://forum.intervoiceonline.org/showthread.php?t=767


--- Spiritual ---

Woman Comes Back From the Dead:
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=14375147&ch=4226722&src=news

Self Exorcism Kit: Audio Prayers & Possession Testimonial:
The truth will set you free: http://tinyurl.com/4oa2cg

Third Secret of Fatima: True Secret Unknown, hidden.
Visions & Revelations of the final war, the end-time, and of hell
http://www.joost.com/272ij4e/t/Pope-and-Third-Secret-of-Fatima#id=272ij4e

Personal Story of Demon Possession 20 Video Interview:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=837591EBCB6220B6&page=1

A trip into the Supernatural (Worship of Demons, Secret Societies)
7 Step Recovery Plan: Timer 3:00:00 (hours):
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7071384717786904996


Emmanuel Swedenborg (The Lord Opened My Eyes) Links, Videos and Texts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgNK0X3RsJE
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=swedenborg
http://www.sacred-texts.com/swd/index.htm
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=swedenborg

Gospel of Judas: National Geographic 2006
Article: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/lostgospel/
Document: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/lostgospel/pdf/GospelofJudas.pdf
Audio: http://www.archive.org/details/gospelofjudas

--- Occult: Witchcraft (careful) ---

> Hi Joe
> Have you got any more insight into what their chatting
> about how many people do you think can do this I thought
> people dialing into me were my delusions but it seems
> true I need to know more have you got any more information?
> Many thanks
> Keith

Keith,
They are talking about leaving their body and using their
spiritual body to fly around the neighborhood, invisible,
and doing a little peeping-tom: Astral Projection, out of body
experiences. He was seeing in both locations while bi-located,
seeing from his bed from the physical eye/body and seeing the
neighborhood he was in with his spiritual eye/body.
This may apply to voices, where you may be subconsciously out
of body or bi-located, and in a neg's house or the other way around,
that a neg may be in your house and hers (bi-located). Hence, the
famous term "DOUBLEVISION". My own intuition/voices are telling me
that elder spirits are playing shuffle with our spiritual/astral
bodies while some of us are unaware (some are). It's against divine
law/morality, Nefarious. Whispering in your ear, and/or sticking
an electric curling iron up your arse.
Joe

Bartley's Astral Manipulation:http://tinyurl.com/ysf3k8
Astral Projectionists are called UNJUST KARMA
http://www.xeeatwelve.net/articles/rags_to_riches.html
Problems w/glass (out-of-body travel) http://tinyurl.com/24mbxm
Eye Open (out-of-body, bi-locating, doublevision): http://tinyurl.com/ysrhbn
Astral Journals: http://tinyurl.com/yom6dy
Ouija Board Dangers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE5foC-EQmw
Freaky Cartoon: http://youtube.com/watch?v=cqi5F5MqqTQ
David Icke Exposes the Matrix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlols5PMvzI

Star Trek Series, Movie called "Clues"
Deana Troi becomes demon possessed.
Look at the timer, move forward to 5:30 on your timer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPZuCThSJDg
 
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eisce

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Very new to learning about this. I need to know how to best help my 14 year old son deal with hearing voices. Any help/advice would be good. My son and I can communicate well but I don't want to say the wrong thing. I see how listening to great live music causes him to hear uninvited morbid/negative male voices (after the music is over) and in an every day situation, only an invited positive female voice may be present.

I felt the need to reply to your post because I'm a mom that hears voices, my daughter is 13. In a few months it will be one year I have heard voices. I am an advid music lover. I attend many shows as well as work in live music showrooms.
So, first off have his ears checked. It may be a loss of hearing situation, the mind perceives a hearing stimulation via a damaged pathway? Second, Take notes (perferably have him do this as well) on his situation. Is sleep disrupted? Voices or buzzing and white noise too? Can he cope with school? Is he feeling a suffering? Each of these issues must be evaluated and catergorized of importance.
Any sign of distress address quickly and lovingly. Much information is to be learned and applied, relax. Unless there is obvious degenerative behavior, outside intervention can wait until the child decides.
Much love to you, as your child is so are you.
 
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terri

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I dont think any intervention is needed , and if you love music , keep focussing on that , cope with people that make you feel ok, and dont try to cure the voices , focus on your life behaviour , your relationship with your daugher, and general things concerned behaviour dependence ect , the sounds and voices will go away by itself when you live a life that you really want to live , i am sure that is the main thing that works ....and support your daugher to do the same .....children are wiser than ofthen is believed , and are individuals that should grow up to be themselves and to like who they are and know how to reach what they want and to understand the world in order to feel free in it more ...

i should not sound like a guru sorry :) , and my english is bad too , but i just trying to tell people they should realize that history is full of surprises ....
hello Mindgames

How nice to meet you

lots of love terri
 
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terri

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Occult: Witchcraft (careful) ---

> Hi Joe
> Have you got any more insight into what their chatting
> about how many people do you think can do this I thought
> people dialing into me were my delusions but it seems
> true I need to know more have you got any more information?
> Many thanks
> Keith

Keith,
They are talking about leaving their body and using their
spiritual body to fly around the neighborhood, invisible,
and doing a little peeping-tom: Astral Projection, out of body
experiences. He was seeing in both locations while bi-located,
seeing from his bed from the physical eye/body and seeing the
neighborhood he was in with his spiritual eye/body.
This may apply to voices, where you may be subconsciously out
of body or bi-located, and in a neg's house or the other way around,
that a neg may be in your house and hers (bi-located). Hence, the
famous term "DOUBLEVISION". My own intuition/voices are telling me
that elder spirits are playing shuffle with our spiritual/astral
bodies while some of us are unaware (some are). It's against divine
law/morality, Nefarious. Whispering in your ear, and/or sticking
an electric curling iron up your arse.
Joe


Szzzzzzz

Who are 'they' if you don't mind me asking? Not someone you know? What do they mean by 'neg'. I don't believe that men of such intelligence who write these things realise the negativity they create themseves by writing such words. We have to fight the evil astrals and take them on at their own game. Isn't that now obvious, especialy after all the prophesies since the 1990s, about how man has changes. Don't forget those shafts of light I have seen, those rumblings though not thunder, that angel of the biblical, was that not Jesus, our arisen Lord. Did he not appear to me in my bedroom? Who does not believe those words? Lots and lots of All.

So against divine law. Who are they to say. So who for divine law will fight this and fight eye for an eye as an astral um for witchcraft of the whiteness. Who out there will fight this?

"They are talking about leaving their body and using their
spiritual body to fly around the neighborhood, invisible,
and doing a little peeping-tom."

Does that mean all manner of men? Satanists, Devil Workshippers Joe Bloggs down the street, Ian Brady, Peter Sutcliffee, Charles Manson. Ah, Rasputin himself.

All seem cock sure of thee sen.
AM

Titus though not for long.

What did he say that man nop of antichrist: I will manifest myself in a series of supernatural events similar to the apparations but much more powerful.

Do not read on nop any more. I am sick to death of no answers and all of man's disbelief.

I do not leave this sight. I merely go away for a while, and so do my voices, my angels, and Gosh Our Faather himsen.

And should others have the courage to post as few others do, then I may respond, or not, as the case may be.

And I leave you with this:

The antichrist will be on earth trying to affect the new world order. Hardly anyone wil notice the extent of his influence until afterwards. He will not be of tremendous visibility until he is accomplished He will not be unlike a figure of the communist, except his ideas will be more cunning.

He will find men who know how to create sperm and eggs from stems. He will introduce the devil himself into these man made created beings. He will destroy all souls. He will destroy light as we know it. These are the words of the Prophet.

I do not do this for the sake of my well being, I do this to make man realise that I am mamma, the spiritual one, the one of who he spoke about. And I am siick and tired of the world not sitting up and taking notice.

All for the foreseeable future. And before I go, in front of my eyes now is an arm, strong arm with the force and the power of a man, an angel in being, and may his life and his light shine on, and it was and is now green, surrounded by life and light of the holiest of spirits, bright bright yellow, as though not from the Sun.

Terri

An astral in being, an ariel of the making, an angel of power, a medium of defence, a spokesperson of a sapan, a philosopher of the greet, a new one.

Amen
 
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joeylondon

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I am the subject of mind control experiments not only hearing voices speaking directly to me but they also can affect my body. has anyone else had physical symptoms? This isnt sci-fi its real and I wonder how many people are experiencing this real phenomona? Do you hear voices or feel your thoughts are being interfered with? do you feel unexplained physical pain? I'd like to speak to other sufferers as this isnt recognised by the mental health world if you speak to a doctor they will just prescribe a higher drug dose. Please get in touch and google psychotronic weapons
 
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OraTor

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I am the subject of mind control experiments not only hearing voices speaking directly to me but they also can affect my body. has anyone else had physical symptoms?
Yes, I'm a relative of a voice hearer and my voice hearer has had physical symptoms: hot spots on the head, hot spots at the lower backbone, sudden and very strong pain, suddenly disappearing, after 10 or 15 very sad and painful minutes. I can help out with massage. I can detect the hot spots with my own hands. Voices try to prove their power with such pranks. They try also to move fingers or the feet. They try to make the voice hearer ludicrous in normal life. Somehow they try to come out of the head, get even more real. They take the risk to destroy the voice hearer. Negotiations with them are not possible. But we can shut them down with normal understanding: the voices know a lot about psychosis, but not so much about how things work, so many of heir fulminations have weak underpinnings. It's important to speak about the voices and to detect their weaknesses - without letting them learn too much. For example, they would like to be accepted as bureaucrats, but do not know how bureaucrats work. Their method is the instantaneous threat, without all the intermediate paces and procedures real life has.
 
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michaelblack

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hi, my name is Michael. ive been hearing voices for more than two years now and my life has been so hard to manage, i feel so isolated, at first, being an artist i tried to do everything i coud to convey what was happening, but ive since just resgned to keep it to myself, ive become distant from everyone in my life, scared to be a part of community cause i cant really be honet or open up to anyone anymore, relationships have been really difficult, they all seem one sided now cause i listen to everyone elses lives but i cant talk about my own. im so afraid of where my life is going to take me, im afraid im going to be rejected or judged by everyone til im on the streets or something. ive learned alot of coping mechanisms, and even though its hard i survive, and have alot of positive things in my life, but im searching for some way to break through of this isolation. it began when i had a very stressful thing happen to me and i started smoking pot and not masturbating for three months total, my sexual energy grew enormously and my consciousness shifted during this time. the stresses involved in my life before that always involved feeling pain in my body that i attributed to others judging me or hating me, i always felt i could sense other people but it was just normal to me until the psychotic break, during the break i had this extra consciousness or energy to isolate the pain i was feeling in my body and i began to try to track the feelings and find a source, i started talking through the feelings and confronting the judgers, and so my mind changed into just thinking and feeling independantly to having to maintain a constant telepathic comunication with people on the other side of those feelings, now i have independance but there are telepathic voices that interrupt and control sometimes, there are positive and negative, ive had a telepathic best friend for over a year, and i have so much shame and fear and too much obligation to this fantastic part of my life i cant prove or fully believe in or stop from happening, all involving a really precious beautiful being in my head who helped me through times when there were entities attacking me, juding me, raping me and torturing me in various ways in my mind. the way my mind works now, anyone i share space with has the potential to become a telepathic connection, so i tend to have all these internal secret relationships with people nd never fully realize actual real life connections with them. this has caused such a powerful rift in my life. i cant really prevent it since telepathic connections become initiated if im sexually attracted to someone, its like most of my life i could fantasize and masturbate about someone i was attracted to, but now every masturbatory experience is like a real relationship because its like i awaken them to telepathy and i have to talk with them and go about a real relationship. over the last two years ive had to drastically alter the way i do things. its hard because i cant turn off my sexual desire, so i am obligated now to form constant sexual relationships consciously, ive had numerous experiences where my real life relationships and my telepathic relationships with a person coincide and there seems to be so many experiences that prove im really in some kind of communion, ive expiremented alot with it, ive come up with lots of theories and ways to explain the ins and outs of it, but i can never bridge the gap, and ultimately if other people were conscious of this and if it was really happening, thered be much more communication in my life about it. but then again no one really talks about their masturbatory lives anyway, so mayb eit is happening and socially we just learn not to engage other people about it. i have to deal with feeling raped by people sexually alot, or being harrassed telepathically by people who are afraid of my energy or disagree in somthing im doing and persecute me in various ways. ive changed my life alot to deal with this btu im really isolated. i have to control my sexual energy in unhealthy ways, and constantly try to prevent pissing someone off or ill hear them thinking bad things about me, other peoples thoughts will interrupt and prevent me from thinking alot, this has made so many things hard in my life. ive had to stop making art, playing music, doing alot of things i used to love cause it causes a reaction supposedly in other people which wither makes them attracted to me or harrass me. i cant make simple judgements about people, it used to be nonessential but now if i have a judgement then i have to telepathically deal with their reaction to it, ive had to force myself to be nonjudgemental to the extreme to prevent psychic wars and arguments from taking over my life, and frequently when i get into telepathic arguments with people there is a persucutory element where they want me to leave, i end up not being able to really live anywhere around people for too long before im harrassed and kicked out. i dont know if any of this has any connection to the real world but i still have to live with it every moment. its terrifying. but also ive had so many profound and amazing spiritual experiences because of this too, and ive grown and become alot wiser, so i see a positive reason for this in my life too. so i dont really know what to do, for example, before this i barely had any connection to my feeling body, now i feel so much stronger, and these masturbatory relationships i get involved in are potent and beautiful and i can actually be sexual in a way i could never before , and love in ways i could never before. i theorize that my whole life id just had people in my life that totally prevented me from connecting on a telepathic spirit level and then when i had the break i forced open a door or broke through some major oppression. before the break my masturbation was like a fight, i could never maintain any feeling for too long and id end up being disappointed and upset, now that ive brought some consciousness into it i can feel and relate internally. there are positive and negative aspects to this. i cant describe all the aspects of my life, but its a missing piece in my life that i can never really fully explain myself to anyone else, my perception is so different from everyone elses, and i feel like it makes me really vulnerable to open up about it, i already have to deal with the fear of being telepathically persecuted, and im afraid if i start to open up it might happen for real, alot of maybe even all of what ive experienced internally has the potential to be real if i open up about it. i have alot of experiences that prove this, although i dont fully believe it, i live with the consequences all the tme and have to account for it in everything i do. it would so help to know people who have similar experiences, i lack truth in al my relationships, ai think i come off as suspicious now because its like i operate as if i have a secret all the time, and im afraid of telepathic reactions or judgements or sexuality/ rape from people. so i would love to make some connecitons with people who are like me. i am such a person devoted to being honest and authentic, for the past few years now i cant really be that way with people in my life. it goes on and on. anyway, it helps alot reading this site, im thankful, it helps to be able just to write this openly. thank you.
 
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Hello. I think, from observation of my situation, that voices stem out of self-inflicted pain or stress, for example while forcing yourself to do something or be part of something you don't really want to. I'm not a physician, but it appears to me that if that stress or pain (which may be located somewhere else in your body) goes on to the throat, vocal chords and/or internal ear and the nervous system connections of those parts, your unwanted reaction will be hearing voices (as others may get rashes or heartbeat, fainting or whatever). The difference to rashes is that voices do have some kind of "reasoned content". I'm not sure if it is healthy to try to reason or argue on these contents, beyond saying that they are surely related to previous experiences, because these reasoning probably further deteriorates your already stressed mental health, but rather see the voices as a direct alarm ringing on what you are doing. That is, that you should stop what you are doing at that moment and relax. Relaxing probably needs some kind of professional help, though.
 
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gabzgrl

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I am a sensitive person. I have been hospitalized, during the extreme stress I was having psychic dreams and able to hear a person's thoughts after being put on Thorazine for being med-resistant. I learned about lobotomies, patient-doctor-psychiatrist issues, issues with medications and side effects, the ignorance of large hospitals to standard care physicians who are supposed to report side effects, using lobotomies to the advantage of doctors but not patients, etc. These all came in the form of dreams. During psychotic states I had many premonition type dreams, as well as psychic dreams. Like a colorful purse I dreamed of the night before appearing in a church pew just like in my dream, which made me ask to go home. I've heard voices tell me in the form of guidance: don't talk to him he's a convicted felon. Eat grains with Geodon this will be over soon. They're not getting you follow-up treatment that is crazy I mean look at you.

I've had clairaudience when my brother almost stayed in jail over-night for something he didn't do, a friend of his caught set fire to garbage in a park as a teen. Instantly I heard echoes in halls, and gibberish, then his voice and I asked "Where's 000?" Just two seconds later the phone rang. I used to be extremely flexible, I've also experienced drawing energy from people, but am morally opposed to it. I wish I could do it but I trained myself not to. I've had issues with medications screwing with my ability, and turning it inside out making me delusional. I've heard voices tell me when things are open or closed. I've heard voices point out things that I wouldn't regularly notice. Warnings usually. such as don't drink with the guy he's got tricks up his sleeve. The consequence of ignoring this "voice" was getting drunk and ruining my semester of college. If I was allowed to hear my own thoughts, and voices, in peace and had not been jailed for something like this, stuck on shitty pills that screwed me up. I would be a SAINT. A flipping prophet.
 
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Barly

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So as well as promoting - along with others - earth connection points and the benefit of them I have to experiment with the regulating of (that is the 'dosage') zinc bought from pharmacies and other metal minerals, whether up or down, until I get right?

Until such time that I please these gods and they become free to do the same to someone else.

Adjusting the volume of a voice that I like in the rubber-sleeved in-ear plugs until it cancels out any other ones.

And a time comes when I feel confident to take them out and leave it off for a while.
 
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Barly

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Voices 'in your head' mainly if not always inaudible to other people. Whether in dreams, even when we are awake. Often if not always when there is a lot on our mind, that of information overload. And the mind, designed as it is, does maintenance and bounces some of it off the inner ear where we hear it as spoken voices. Inviting us in a waking moment (ie a waking dream - where we are awaew that we are dreaming) - to reply. The most common reply being the question Who are you?

Like a computer the mind can only complete it's maintenance and self-repair - which it is very good at, sleep is a good healer depending on what we put into the body - and answers from memory.
 
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What are all these posts in a long list? That clicketh I might titilate myself in having found something of importance to the human race. As people of all intellects come together to discuss & to see where words will lead them.
 
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