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Have an ATOS medical coming up, and scared sh!tless!

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JPG2502

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though i am so glad i have discovered this forum, i finally feel like im not completely crazy (or perhaps not the only one who IS crazy) :p

basically, i am pretty bad anxiety issues.
the physical symptoms (ones which i would say stop me from holding down are job) are that i am physically sick on a regular basis, i spend most morning vomiting, and most evenings feeling very nauseous.
i also suffer from 'occasional' blackouts, and once passed out in public in wh smith!

the problem here is, i dont come across as some sort of wallflower, nor am i a constant quivering mess.
i am a mess about 50% of my life at the moment, the other 50% i am ok-(ish).

i decided to start claiming ESA 6 months ago, on the advice of a job adviser, and the fact i was getting worse and just needed a few months respite.
i was hoping to be feeling atleast abit better before being called by the dreaded ATOS.
unfortunately i dont.

i got the letter a couple of days ago, and have the appointment on new years eve at midday.
so all over christmas this is all i am going to be thinking about! :eek:

i am trying to put it to the back of my mind but i really cant, everytime i am near the internet all i can do is search endless pages about ATOS stories and its making me feel worse and worse.

i am terrified i am going to be left up shit creek.
i need money to survive. im in the crap money wise enough as it is, never mind attempting to live on an income of zilch.

i just know that they will fail me, i cant see anyway in which i would be able to pass an ATOS medical when they fail so many people with similar and worse problems!
i cant claim JSA because theres no way i can stick to appointments.
i cant appeal because that would mean living off NOTHING for months on end, if i have that right?

what on earth am i going to do.
 
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Hi JPG2502
do you still see or have contact with the job advisor who advised you to start claiming esa? The DWP should have something on record still about it that you can ask for to back up your claim. Also if you can get any help or advice from CAB, GP or any support workers, MIND are very good too from what I've heard and might be able to sort out an advocate for you also. There are some good links on here in this section of the forum that might be useful, try not to worry, easier said than done I know but please keep chatting here if it helps and :welcome: to the forum.
 
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Hi JPG2502
do you still see or have contact with the job advisor who advised you to start claiming esa? The DWP should have something on record still about it that you can ask for to back up your claim. Also if you can get any help or advice from CAB, GP or any support workers, MIND are very good too from what I've heard and might be able to sort out an advocate for you also. There are some good links on here in this section of the forum that might be useful, try not to worry, easier said than done I know but please keep chatting here if it helps and :welcome: to the forum.
Thanks.
I have actually seen this on the mind website, which has put my mind at ease slightly .
Thought whether it actually means anything I don't know..

Mind - Atos Healthcare assessments falling short
 
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Hi

just a little bit of ifo which might help.... Be honest @ your interview but also make sure you tell them everything as it is, on your worst day... don't get fooled into stupid question, answer them clearly but make sure they write everything down.

The next step is to appeal if you are not happy, over 40% of appeals for MH issues are overturned on appeal.

While on appeal isn't there appeal rate which is the same as JSA ? I might be wrong here but thats what I know for now, please correct me if wrong.

get support from your GP and any other service workers you get help from.


good luck and try and relax as much as you can.
 
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I went for ATOS medical expecting to fail, I did not.
I went and told the truth.
I did not put anything on, just sat there and told it as it was.
My ATOS medical report made interesting reading, and the DOC saw aspects of me that I had not realised, all of which helped my case.

Do not assume everyone fails, they do not.

I have depression/anxiety, (with a few other ailments thrown in for good measure:)
I am not a miserable person, unkempt person, on the outside I am to all intents and purposes still the same old me, I can laugh, joke whatever - there is just a side of me that stops me from functioning normally.
Sadly, there is NO controlling or knowing when this side kicks in, that is what makes living normal difficult.
A whole good day is rare, but neither is it ALL bad - it is finding the balance.

I am on medication, see a CPN, I have panic attacks, when out of my depth, no longer drive because of this, my world has shrunk, there are a catalogue of things that effect people with MH problems.

When you go for your medical tell them how it effects your day to day living.
Your best support is your DOC, and other medical evidence you have.
Not sure they will take much notice of your ex adviser, as they are non medical (and it was their view) not a fact.
So get some medical back-up.

If you fail you can appeal and 40% of all appeals win.
 
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I went for ATOS medical expecting to fail, I did not.
I went and told the truth.
I did not put anything on, just sat there and told it as it was.
My ATOS medical report made interesting reading, and the DOC saw aspects of me that I had not realised, all of which helped my case.

Do not assume everyone fails, they do not.

I have depression/anxiety, (with a few other ailments thrown in for good measure:)
I am not a miserable person, unkempt person, on the outside I am to all intents and purposes still the same old me, I can laugh, joke whatever - there is just a side of me that stops me from functioning normally.
Sadly, there is NO controlling or knowing when this side kicks in, that is what makes living normal difficult.
A whole good day is rare, but neither is it ALL bad - it is finding the balance.

I am on medication, see a CPN, I have panic attacks, when out of my depth, no longer drive because of this, my world has shrunk, there are a catalogue of things that effect people with MH problems.

When you go for your medical tell them how it effects your day to day living.
Your best support is your DOC, and other medical evidence you have.
Not sure they will take much notice of your ex adviser, as they are non medical (and it was their view) not a fact.
So get some medical back-up.

If you fail you can appeal and 40% of all appeals win.
thankyou, this has set my mind at ease slightly, though not alot :(

i seriously need help 2 bash these negative thoughts out of my head, i cant enjoy anything at the moment because i keep seeing 'atos atos atos atos atos' running around in my brain. :eek:
im terrified.

im being dropped off there. though no one is coming in with me (i actually think that would make it worse)

when asking for a 'copy' of the medical report, do i call up before or after the medical ?

im still not quite sure what im supposed to say/do, 'hello i am physically sick very often and suffer panic attacks, this makes it impossible to hold down a fulltime job at the moment' the end.
its common sense surely?
 
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I would suggest you do go in with someone. I know it sounds irish but if you go in by yourself sometimes that can be a negative, not always.

I did go in with my father and I guess it did work in my favour because the old boy winds me up at the best of times, bless him.

I appreciate none of these words will help until after the assessment. I was having continuous panic attaks beforehand so definitely appreciate how you are feeling right now.

I did ask therapist, gp and psychiatrist whether they would give me a supportive medical report and all agreed and also had to take proof of my meds to the assessment too.

They didn't send the reports because I was put into support group at assessment.

My advice go in unclean, unshaven etc even if you not like that always and try not to make too much eye contact. I do appreciate we really shouldn't have to do these things. It isn't great but these things will actually improve your chances.

Hopefully you will get the right result. If not I would advise chatting to a local mental health advocate who you could talk to re concerns.

But most certainly I absolutley wish you all the best

Rex:)
 
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im still not quite sure what im supposed to say/do, 'hello i am physically sick very often and suffer panic attacks, this makes it impossible to hold down a fulltime job at the moment' the end.
its common sense surely?
Work is Therapeutic - Arbeit macht frei
 
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I had the dreaded appointment today .

The man was actually a doctor though.. At least he said he was, and had the 'DR' initials on his name badge.

He seemed quite concerned and said you 'SHOULD` carry on getting your ESA as normal. That was without me asking.
Or do they all say this ?

I thought it would be a weight off my shoulders, but now I'm dreading the bloody letter through the door.

I just want to have this out of the way and spend the next few months getting completely well again.
I simply will not be able to cope with an appeal and all that other sh!te.
 
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I had the dreaded appointment today .

The man was actually a doctor though.. At least he said he was, and had the 'DR' initials on his name badge.

He seemed quite concerned and said you 'SHOULD` carry on getting your ESA as normal. That was without me asking.
Or do they all say this ?

I thought it would be a weight off my shoulders, but now I'm dreading the bloody letter through the door.

I just want to have this out of the way and spend the next few months getting completely well again.
I simply will not be able to cope with an appeal and all that other sh!te.
Well that sounds promising to me, so try not to worry.
NO they do not all say that - far from it :)
I also saw a REAL Doc, :) I think it helps - rather than someone who has no real medical expertise at all.

Here is hoping 2014 brings good news when the brownie lands on your mat.

xxxx
 
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Hi there

Work can be therapeutic but it can be the opposite if you are ill and depends on the type of illness.
In can in fact impede a persons progress to getting better. Don't get me wrong I know people with mental illness who have said work helps them get better but even that was after they had to take say a year out because of illness.
 
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Well that sounds promising to me, so try not to worry.
NO they do not all say that - far from it :)
I also saw a REAL Doc, :) I think it helps - rather than someone who has no real medical expertise at all.

Here is hoping 2014 brings good news when the brownie lands on your mat.

xxxx
And happy new year to you
 
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Hi there

Work can be therapeutic but it can be the opposite if you are ill and depends on the type of illness.
In can in fact impede a persons progress to getting better. Don't get me wrong I know people with mental illness who have said work helps them get better but even that was after they had to take say a year out because of illness.
Yes I get this. I actually think work will help me.
But certainly not yet .
 
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Any idea how long it usually takes to hear back? I have not heard anything since the medical at new years. getting very anxious !
 
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