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i wasn't too happy when that psychiatrist said it but new broom and his diagnosis was gone in 6 months, i remember the psychiatrist said i could workm and this support worker got nasty making comments about a training course for suppport workers at his works i could join, and how after pating the rent for a one room flat on the edgeware rd he only got 50 a month more and who wants to work for a measly 50 a month

the support worker embarked on a relationship with this really attractive support worker and they were saving up towards the deposit on a shared flat, maybe that should be factored in
are you okay? :hug:
 
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as long as your ok, i'm sure ok would mean a benefit cut though an ok that includes serious fitness for work is unrealistic and at my age would come too late
 
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as long as your ok, i'm sure ok would mean a benefit cut though an ok that includes serious fitness for work is unrealistic and at my age would come too late
I have also been left to deal with stuff myself although i have come to prefer it. I am wasting my life in a way, trying to get through and do things that make it a bit more worthwhile. You are further down the line to me and so i can imagine how you must feel.

Do you drink much? I find just one can of cider and i am wasted, perhaps because of medication. It leaves me feel heady for a couple of days. I am looking forward to the summer when there is at least opportunity to dress up nice and walk somewhere, and then go out and sit and have a cup of tea somewhere and feel like a normal person.

It is hard though,

DBT groups, i have read that some find them patronising but some find them very helpful. Perhaps DBT is better than medication and better than nights in A&E following self harm or suicide attempts. I think it is the only treatment, specified, specialist treatment for emotional dysregulation, especially as i think hospital admission is less common. I might be wrong here.

The people who take up the budget most might be those who keep stopping their meds and get sectioned for 6 months plus. Who knows, i know i am not spending it. I don't even get much PIP i am too scared to question a decision and just grateful for the pennies i get. I am going to fight harder next time as i cannot see me working ever again, just volunteer.

I hate this middle position, this too ill to work or live fully but too well to get more support. We have been left to rot some might say.

I don't want to rot, i'm trying to keep going.

Covid is going now hopefully, more, so everything will open again. Hopefully there will be more to do. I want to swim or get fitter. I don't know, something.

Stop drinking! you have been told :) cup of coffee and get ready for bed
 
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I have also been left to deal with stuff myself although i have come to prefer it. I am wasting my life in a way, trying to get through and do things that make it a bit more worthwhile. You are further down the line to me and so i can imagine how you must feel.

Do you drink much? I find just one can of cider and i am wasted, perhaps because of medication. It leaves me feel heady for a couple of days. I am looking forward to the summer when there is at least opportunity to dress up nice and walk somewhere, and then go out and sit and have a cup of tea somewhere and feel like a normal person.

It is hard though,

DBT groups, i have read that some find them patronising but some find them very helpful. Perhaps DBT is better than medication and better than nights in A&E following self harm or suicide attempts. I think it is the only treatment, specified, specialist treatment for emotional dysregulation, especially as i think hospital admission is less common. I might be wrong here.

The people who take up the budget most might be those who keep stopping their meds and get sectioned for 6 months plus. Who knows, i know i am not spending it. I don't even get much PIP i am too scared to question a decision and just grateful for the pennies i get. I am going to fight harder next time as i cannot see me working ever again, just volunteer.

I hate this middle position, this too ill to work or live fully but too well to get more support. We have been left to rot some might say.

I don't want to rot, i'm trying to keep going.

Covid is going now hopefully, more, so everything will open again. Hopefully there will be more to do. I want to swim or get fitter. I don't know, something.

Stop drinking! you have been told :) cup of coffee and get ready for bed
hey tawny you should defo question the pip my sister works for the Welsh one and they have people who look into appeals - my sisters really compassionate and suffers with mh herself.

I appreciate why you’d be anxious but what If you questioned it and someone said oh yeah you’re right you should be getting more for this 🤗

I mean I appreciate it could go the other way!

also I really relate with what you said about the feeling of wasting life I actually work full time but I feel so empty and pointless I feel like there’s no meaning or purpose to anything there was a promotion in work recently and everyone was like you should go for it and even though I knew I should I didn’t because I was like what’s the point so I’m still bottom rung of the ladder after 6 years even though I’m capable of loads more - I guess I hate change as well. I’ve been thinking about why I’m staying there recently the answer was pension etc but then I think to myself who cares about a pension I prob won’t live long enough to get on anyway! Also I’d hate the idea of being old and alive being less active and weaker and people being mean to me after me spending my life trying to love people and be friends with them sometimes I think oh actually I can’t say the next bit or I’ll get in trouble :(
 
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I have also been left to deal with stuff myself although i have come to prefer it. I am wasting my life in a way, trying to get through and do things that make it a bit more worthwhile. You are further down the line to me and so i can imagine how you must feel.

Do you drink much? I find just one can of cider and i am wasted, perhaps because of medication. It leaves me feel heady for a couple of days. I am looking forward to the summer when there is at least opportunity to dress up nice and walk somewhere, and then go out and sit and have a cup of tea somewhere and feel like a normal person.

It is hard though,

DBT groups, i have read that some find them patronising but some find them very helpful. Perhaps DBT is better than medication and better than nights in A&E following self harm or suicide attempts. I think it is the only treatment, specified, specialist treatment for emotional dysregulation, especially as i think hospital admission is less common. I might be wrong here.

The people who take up the budget most might be those who keep stopping their meds and get sectioned for 6 months plus. Who knows, i know i am not spending it. I don't even get much PIP i am too scared to question a decision and just grateful for the pennies i get. I am going to fight harder next time as i cannot see me working ever again, just volunteer.

I hate this middle position, this too ill to work or live fully but too well to get more support. We have been left to rot some might say.

I don't want to rot, i'm trying to keep going.

Covid is going now hopefully, more, so everything will open again. Hopefully there will be more to do. I want to swim or get fitter. I don't know, something.

Stop drinking! you have been told :) cup of coffee and get ready for bed
yes this borderline position, years ago i did something for bbc 2 and i was filmed saying i'd like either to be totally fit for work or totally disabled, they cut that bit and the social worker on the programme said it was the most important thing i said, they that is the bbc producer used me to push their agenda

it was years ago when i was in that hostel with all the stabilised on drugs crap, i blame them for a lot of things, on the other hand i've learned independent living, now my parents are dead i'm what's the word surviving
 
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yes this borderline position, years ago i did something for bbc 2 and i was filmed saying i'd like either to be totally fit for work or totally disabled, they cut that bit and the social worker on the programme said it was the most important thing i said, they that is the bbc producer used me to push their agenda

it was years ago when i was in that hostel with all the stabilised on drugs crap, i blame them for a lot of things, on the other hand i've learned independent living, now my parents are dead i'm what's the word surviving
surviving not thriving, i say that about me too

Yes journalists and most people hear what they want to hear, see what they want to see.

I hope we both find something more than survival soon

I get so desperate sometimes i think i might grab some gloves and a bin bag and go litter picking!
 
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surviving not thriving, i say that about me too

Yes journalists and most people hear what they want to hear, see what they want to see.

I hope we both find something more than survival soon

I get so desperate sometimes i think i might grab some gloves and a bin bag and go litter picking!
you seem to have the protestant work ethic badly, given up on it, it's a stupid thing for a catholic to have, though i wouldn't say too loudly i'm not looking for work
 
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People like you,are the reason,funding gets cut.
You have no guts,to sign it.
Do you even care about others?
I am sorry,but your remarks,to me,sound very heartless and very cold.
I understand your anger, Candycane, but ramboghettouk sounds depressed. We can all come over 'heavy' when we feel like that. Kind regards, GK.
 
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here are a lot of deserving causes, i'm using a food bank some would say i'm as deserving a cause as paying 50 pounds for someone to have a session of dbt

spent 92 pounds on a sainsbury delivery if prices continue to rise i got 43p a week rise in my pip
 
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i don't know much about dbt, my experience of nhs mental health services is in practice they're only given to people who don't want them, by vicious people, i'd rather they were closed down and the money was put into the benefit system, if people then use the money to go to the pub it'd probably do more good

dbt seems an expensive use of money for what it is
Crikey, Ram..., I just defended you but if you're going to pump out this extreme negativity, it isn't going to win you any friends on here. If you don't know about DBT, how can you criticise it as a waste of money? In my case, I found it on the net and begged my pdoc to get me into a group. This was about 2 years ago. He managed to do so then, but I haven't got BPD (borderline personality disorder) but bipolar, so I'm now excluded from ever having it again on the NHS. I have had 4 lots of CBT which I found a waste of time (I gather it works for some), but DBT worked incredibly well incredibly quickly where a raft of other therapies had failed. If you get the chance to have it, I recommend you give it a try - but you'll have to keep an open mind. Assuming it won't work will mean that it won't. Regards, the Ginger Kitten.
 

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