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Sorry, but you don't know me so don't presume I'm going to annoy or harm other people because I have come off my meds. You could always campaign to have me and others who choose to do so shot, it would save the NHS millions and there would be more available for yourself and others who need it. I suspect the Tories would jump at the opportunity.
 
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Sorry, but you don't know me so don't presume I'm going to annoy or harm other people because I have come off my meds. You could always campaign to have me and others who choose to do so shot, it would save the NHS millions and there would be more available for yourself and others who need it. I suspect the Tories would jump at the opportunity.
You can always debate the issue for 10 years with Rambo, as i have.
 
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I know nothing about it though, and there would be no point. I'll probably be gone in 10 year's time anyway, because of the antidepressant side effects. So a bullet to the head doesn't seem that bad really. It's quick and you wouldn't feel much, but I could have horrible health problems from the drugs. I suppose that's my fault for choosing to be ill.
 
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I know nothing about it though, and there would be no point. I'll probably be gone in 10 year's time anyway, because of the antidepressant side effects. So a bullet to the head doesn't seem that bad really. It's quick and you wouldn't feel much, but I could have horrible health problems from the drugs. I suppose that's my fault for choosing to be ill.
Oh well. Welcome to the Happy Club with it all.
 
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Sorry, but you don't know me so don't presume I'm going to annoy or harm other people because I have come off my meds. You could always campaign to have me and others who choose to do so shot, it would save the NHS millions and there would be more available for yourself and others who need it. I suspect the Tories would jump at the opportunity.
your presuming you won't act in certain ways i'm just saying thats a presumption, my girlfriend when she attacked me, what can i say but as jung says we all have our shadow

i'm not saying it will or won't happen these things are probabilities,
 
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at least we take meds and we're still going
Well if you're lucky I might kill myself and I won't bother any of you again. You can see it as a small victory in your fight to prove that off meds nutjobs are not worth helping, should at least be put in prison and have their stupidity whipped out of them by the guards 10 times a day or more.
 
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at least we take meds and we're still going
Yea, well, all arguments & circumstances considered i have come to a far deeper acceptance of the diagnosis/illness/condition & need for the low dose of medication. i have come to far more of an acceptance of the way this society/culture/system is around it all.

Maybe if there was better understanding, help & support it could have been/could be different? But there isn't that level of help.

On i plod. Has been 17 years since last in hospital. 12 years since the last major psychotic episode. 15 years of sobriety & a very independent & relatively full life. i must be doing something right?

i will continue to speak out on it all & what i see as better/more humane understandings & approaches to madness/mental health - But i can't change anything. My main practice is acceptance/allowance of the World/Humanity as it is, in all it's Glorious & Utter Lunacy.
 
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Well if you're lucky I might kill myself and I won't bother any of you again. You can see it as a small victory in your fight to prove that off meds nutjobs are not worth helping, should at least be put in prison and have their stupidity whipped out of them by the guards 10 times a day or more.
The ideal is med free resolution/healing, & some people do achieve that. Also a lot don't. i think it's often highly individual & complex as to what outcomes/prognosis there is.

Sorry to say but from what i have observed with people that do get successfully med free, there usually wasn't the same severity of original problems & they usually get a lot of support & are in far better circumstances.

i'm only thinking of your quality of life & well being & to carefully consider all the different perspectives & options with it all. At the least i'd suggest working closely with your GP with it all.
 
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i'm thinking of my friend who was diagnosed schitzoprenic in the late 70s and is off meds, yes i find her more interesting than the on med women in the mind group i go to, not so long ago i expect she'd have been proclaiming she was off meds and cured, she's now in the process of a pip claim and proving she's disabled however
 
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I would rather be dead than end up in hospital again so as long as I appear fairly healthy at GP appointments I should be ok working with her. If I choose to kill myself then it may be for the best, but I certainly won't be harming anyone else, so don't worry. Thank you for the advice and expressing an interest though. :hug5:
 
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I would rather be dead than end up in hospital again so as long as I appear fairly healthy at GP appointments I should be ok working with her. If I choose to kill myself then it may be for the best, but I certainly won't be harming anyone else, so don't worry. Thank you for the advice and expressing an interest though. :hug5:
You'd be harming yourself. There are spiritual consequences to suicide imo. At the least imo we have to come back to learn the same lessons. But it's your free choice with it all.

Anything that i've learned from my own path with it all, i'd say try & work with the medical system, & the resources that you have. It's quite an experience to end up in severe psychosis with zero contact with the medical system.
 
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You'd be harming yourself. There are spiritual consequences to suicide imo. At the least imo we have to come back to learn the same lessons. But it's your free choice with it all.

Anything that i've learned from my own path with it all, i'd say try & work with the medical system, & the resources that you have. It's quite an experience to end up in severe psychosis with zero contact with the medical system.
It's only an experience if you choose to put up with it. After the last experience I had with the medical system I won't be going down that road again. It was a fate worse than death.

The point is that harming myself when I am who I am is hardly the worst thing that could happen. I'm not worth anybody's worry but other people are so that would be a bad thing.

Even if I repeat everything over again I won't be me in my present incarnation.
 
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It's only an experience if you choose to put up with it. After the last experience I had with the medical system I won't be going down that road again. It was a fate worse than death.

The point is that harming myself when I am who I am is hardly the worst thing that could happen. I'm not worth anybody's worry but other people are so that would be a bad thing.

Even if I repeat everything over again I won't be me in my present incarnation.
You don't know anyones or your own true worth. You have a major self identity issue, which is very common in mental health.

imo, within our overall circumstances/life, we have entirely our own free will & choices. Ultimately it's your life, & personal responsibility, as an adult, to live any way you want & see fit.

If you kill yourself then you can see for yourself what happens on the other side.
 
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