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i just wonder if i didn't drink at night whether i could do a job, i can see the dwp arguing that at my work capability assessment but i doubt i'd be fit on these meds anyway, yes i know some on meds who work and the majority don't and those who work who post on this forum, the thing is what don't they say, reading between the lines

i got drunk last night and feel awful, how much is the dring how much is the meds and how much is drinking on meds?

i feel it helps me sleep and i feel it's better than sleeping pills

reminds me theres an aa meeting in my local church tonight but i don't see myself as that far gone as one shrink said so far
 
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Hi Ramboghettouk,

As far as I know, one shouldn't even be drinking on meds. They are just not compatible.

In terms of your last paragraph, you have to be thankful that if according to that to use a word shrink, look at it as a positive st ep, so if you know you do not need to attend an aa meeting, you are begining to improve or improving from sometime.

As a test check, see if you can aim that for another aa meeting without not having a drink, and if you haven't had, and you don't attend, that 's another great way to tell if you're improving by not having so much intake of that sort of drink.
 
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shrinks never mentioned aa, one did say when i discussed drinking however " it probably does less harm than valium and sleeping pills"

i've been to aa meetings without drinking

at one point i turned up at this alcohol place they said you had to go 24hrs without drinking when i said i'd been 24hrs without drinking they said i didn't have an alcohol problem

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i am worried that at any work capability asssessment interview they'll hold my drinking against me, cut my benefits and i won't be able to work due to schitzoprenia and the meds, i'll also have problems going to food banks due to social anxiety, i've already tried
 
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I think as far as working on meds it depends what they are and how they affect you. I worked for a long time but was only on sertraline and once my body got used to it I was ok. But after a spell in hospital I was put on antipsychotics and a multitude of other meds I couldn’t work or drive. I’ve been lucky I worked for most of my life. Just had the last 10 years before retirement off. It does depend on what your taking as to whether you can function normally. I know how crippling social anxiety can be.

I can’t comment on your drinking as I don’t know anything about you. But would say try and have a couple of days a week off. I was married to an alcoholic and when we went to an addiction clinic he admitted to drinking 70 pints a week tho it was much more, and because he didn’t drink in the morning they wouldn’t help him. It did finally kill him but it was a waste of an intelligent man.
 
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Of all the books about schizophrenia I've read they all say to avoid alcohol, except for one. This one particular book said it was okay to have one or two drinks once in awhile if it appeared to help the person and was not detrimental. So that's the book I go with.
 
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the gp says i'm a problem drinker not an alcoholic, an alcoholic drinks when he knows it's doing him harm, at some alcohol place they laughed at that

when i go to the centre of london today the buses and tubes will stink of alcohol fumes whilst i'll be sober
 
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Can't you have some before your assessment.? If you self med everyday then why would you go sober to wvassessment?
 
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i think turning up at an assessment drunk, well they have views about drunks, undeserving etc

just got my gps letter 25 pound don't know if it's the gps decision, they're not likely to allow me near her without an appt

according to letter my alcohol problem ended some time ago

now a long wait once my women has sent it all recorded delivery
 
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well you already know that they view all of us as undeserving. but youre not jumping through the hoops that are so lovingly presented by the fucking mafia. good luck.
 
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been stressed out, hoping once the 1st phase is over i can forget it for a while, theres people i know through mind, long termers at john wilson house the day centre that closed who are been questioned some with recent hospital admissions, it's worrying me, particularly since i was told years ago i was stabilised on meds and fit for work, may sound slightly rediculous now but those bastards in that hostel had me captive for their brainwashing

if i was fit for work why was i in a hostel, somehow never occurrred to me
 
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what mafia are you referring to, just curious
 
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they are criminals. worse than the mafia they are guilty of crimes against humanity
 
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who are? if you mean the mental health workers i don't see them persecuting me unless not wanting to know is persecution

and i do feel sack the lot of them particularly as the people who have contact with them are the same people who don't want contact, put the money into a mental health benefit and maybe decent training for the police in mental health

maybe the american system is better for all the homelessness and mentally ill in prison, maybe it's fairer if crueler
 
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maybe we're in agreement though i may have mentioned been harrassed by familys who had loads of kids on benefits and to some extent i support the benefit cap for familys, the whole experience has left me reactionary

and it was pournellle labour benefit minister who said he was going to stigmatise those on benefits, though ian duncan smith quoted pournelle in a speech when he was appointed to the dwp even he didn't say he agreed
 
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we're in agreement over a lot of things but you cant see that there is a forward direction out of to some extent shit circumstances.and to some extent there is a way out of the ghetto
 
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just heard my mothers in hospital, can’t really go to brum because benefit form needs dealing with, bitchy but might be nice if i just had a cpn to deal with it, the women from my unemployment group has e mailed, she hasn’t received copy of drs letter despite me and her requesting they e mail a copy, spent hour connecting scanner so i can scan it and send it
mother went in this morning can’t be too bad as little suster caught her flight back to malta, maybe she didn’t know
getting homicidal feelings about the staff at my local job centre, are they worth 10 yrs in broadmoor, anyway theres jokes about that massive security nan and how he must be on steroids, they’re cars are in this car park with massive 7 foot automatic gates as well
i’d like it settled, maybe just send in what i’ve got and if they put me to the question that will be later
 
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it must be 30yrs ago i lost that job, i was telling the cpn, at the time, how the gp had said if i sign a sick note some so called independent dr could overturn it, i heard her telling a social worker from the offfice that, and him replying does that gp know the nature and degree of his problems

at the time i thought he knows the nature and degree of the discrimination i've experienced

guess now theres a discrimination act, though you need money to take employers to a tribunal and legal aid for discrimination cases has been stopped and employers know that

maybe i could be a trustee peer role model but as my sister said they don't want any cynical role models
 
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my mother my brother says she’s only eating if my sister pressurises her and keeps on pulling the oxygen mask of, just got text of sister in a day or 2 we’ll know if the antibiotics are working
i don’t want to go up on the train stressed, they’ll pick on me. don’t consider it a symptom either, if i pay for a taxi well theres that benefit cut posible could need the money
my support worker has written to the gp basically saying the letter isn’t supportive the gp says my support worker states, as the support worker said the dwp won;t listen to her and some gps comment is needed
the forms got to be in by fri or they’ll stop benefits, my support worker says she’ll send the form in with on it that a gps letter will follow she obviously doesn’t think much of the gps letter
i’ve only been seeing the gp a year, she hardly knows me, when i am in a state i have to make an appt for 2 weeks time by which time it’s history
the whole thing is worrying me