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Faking DID?

cpuusage

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I was thinking to myself PTSD is NOT something you would want to have,I wish it was as simple as getting occassional anxiety!!
The whole field of mental health is very difficult & odd. There are marked distinctions in behavioural (presenting speech/behaviour) with what may really be going within - there are huge gaps in medical/psychiatric knowledge & huge range as to what comes under different conditions. It's complicated as well by the whole ongoing anti/critical VS pro psychiatry argument, which largely seems to become primarily about polemics & politics.

Until there is a far far better understanding of the brain, consciousness & psyche & how all of that fits together with everything environmental - i don't see that we're going to make much headway within all these areas. Currently the order of the day seems to be primarily mass diagnoses/medicating.

There is no real coherence between areas of psychiatry, sociology, psychology & alternatives.

There are also various very different, & really irreconcilable World views/paradigms concerning the understanding of the mind/psyche - self & reality.

i found the book 'Soul Centered Healing' by Tom Zinser very good, which primarily focuses on DID.
 
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How do you know when someone is faking DID?.Maybe I could understand if it was in 'real life',but how can you tell from an online post?
 
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cpuusage,I went to Anazon to see what the book is about,it looks very interesting.I will have to read it.

Crawlspace,I don't know for sure if someone is faking,but there's many hints that they are.By some of the things they say.
 

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cpuusage,I went to Anazon to see what the book is about,it looks very interesting.I will have to read it.
i'd be very interested in your opinion on it after you have read it.

It ties into the spirit release areas - Spirit Release Forum

Everything that i've come across seems to fall primarily into one main area -

1. Physiological/biologic.
2. Sociological/behavioural.
3. Psychological/emotional.
4. Spiritual/Transpersonal.

i think it makes sense to take a more Integral view - & to acknowledge that there are inner 'psychic' realities/realms of the psyche.
 
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Although I am no longer DID I am interested in the subject,there's still a lot I would like to understand about it.

There were some experiences during my 5 years of therapy that my therapist had trouble accepting when viewing them from a scientific point of view.He would say they were not possible and would seem confused,and sometimes a little freaked out by them.

I do believe though,as time went by,he started accepting that there was way more going on than he first believed and that some things can't really be explained but must be believed due to witnessing them firsthand.

Once,he got upset and said "people like to believe that what they are thinking is private,but that's not always the case with you,is it?".He was upset because he was thinking something negative about me and what I was discussing that day and I called him out on it.At. first he kept denying it but eventually gave in and admitted it.

There were other things too,and he would ask how I knew and when I explained that the energy level,his energy,shifted at certain times,he dismissed it as not true.Sometimes he witnessed the energy I was talking about but he had a hard time understanding or accepting it.For instance,a deck of cards were sitting in a stack on the table beside my chair,they slowly fell off the table( even though they were not on the edge of the table),they fell,one by one,in slow motion,into the garbage can,and we both sat and watched as he could only say "wow".Other things too,such as a water fountain suddenly getting very loud as I was talking,and many other things that he wasnt able to understand.When I tried to explain them,and that these were the things I have experienced my whole life,he tried to dismiss them as part of my illness.

He seemed so fascinated with the mirror writing that I only let him see it once.

I think maybe some of his beliefs may have changed through our years of therapy and he accepts some things are not able to be explained even though they can be experienced.
 
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. I don't understand why anyone would wish to have been diagnosed with any mental illness let alone be the worst at it! LOL - talk about crazy !
It's not just DID that is faked,there are many mental illnesses that are,for whatever reasons.

I know a few people that have faked illnesses just to get on disability so they dont have to work.They laugh,joke and brag about it and I find that disturbing too because I also know people that really do need to be on disability and they either had a very hard time getting it or they are still fighting for it.

I also know ppl that use their DX to gain sympathy and attention or use it as an excuse for everything they do or to excuse bad behavior.

I was talking to someone just last week that has been diagnosed with an anxiety disorder,she needed someone to talk to during a rough patch.It became very obvious that what she really wanted from me was sympathy,she wanted me to say oh poor you,I am so sorry,I feel so bad for you,which I did say I feel bad for you because I understand what its like,but I did not pity her or coddle her.

I told her some things she could do to help herself,gave her a workbook that I knew would help,told her that with work and effort she could find ways to manage her anxiety,reminded her that her therapist can give her tools to help herself but her therapist couldn't 'fix' her,that she has to want to do that herself and it is up to her whether she puts in the work.

I don't think she was happy with what I told her.It is obvious she enjoys the attention and sympathy she receives and uses her DX to her advantage.She also posts on Facebook in order to gain sympathy and attention.She probably won't turn to me for advice again,but that's okay,I dont play into pitying anyone or telling them what they want to hear,I think its better to tell them what they need to hear.If I am asked for advice I want to help,not just be nice.

That was a little off topic but it annoys me when people don't honestly try to help themselves.I see it here on the forum often,ppl wanting attention and sympathy instead of trying to change things or help themselves.
 
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I agree that a person can't always tell if someone is faking an illness. But, I think human connection is really important, and support forums are a way to get that connection. I can see why you're frustrated about people not wanting to get help, but I can also see the need for support that people may be seeking.
 
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I think human connection is important too.And I also understand the need for support too,I need support myself too,every person does.

I just don't think that pitying someone and feeding into their own self pity is beneficial.
 

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That was a little off topic but it annoys me when people don't honestly try to help themselves.I see it here on the forum often,ppl wanting attention and sympathy instead of trying to change things or help themselves.
There are pros & cons to a diagnosis & role of 'mental patient' - actual, feigned & degree of seriousness.

There is a large component of personal responsibility - But there is also a lot of social/environmental aspects to things, & varying nature/degree of the severity of underlying condition/difficulties.

It seems complex - There is behavioral - presenting speech/behaviour, that is really primarily the only thing anyone can go on.

There is the inner world. Behavioral presentations aren't necessarily reflective of the inner World.

There are all the grey areas concerning psychiatric diagnoses/disorders (various theories/pov) & the contentions surrounding it all - lack of any objective tests etc, Not that it means that mental illness doesn't exist when it obviously does. & there are myriad issues in trying to compare things, but there are again very obviously massive degrees/ranges of severity/problem.

It's hard to separate things out - In what ways are people unwell, what kind/degree of psychopathology is there? & i don't doubt there are varying degrees of it, people are unwell in various ways to various degrees.

A few people i know who claim to have mental health difficulties, i don't think do have them - other people i think have more serious/actual mental health problems. Not to say people don't have any difficulties, suffering & struggles - But in regards to what comes under a genuine mental illness/psychopathology & what is 'just' life - i think there are distinctions.

How much is also biologic - psychological - social - transpersonal? & what are the best approaches for people - It's all areas/questions that haven't been more satisfactorily answered.
 

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A few people i know who claim to have mental health difficulties, i don't think do have them - other people i think have more serious/actual mental health problems. Not to say people don't have any difficulties, suffering & struggles - But in regards to what comes under a genuine mental illness/psychopathology & what is 'just' life - i think there are distinctions.
How many people suddenly decide that psychiatry is nonsense & that there is nothing wrong with them? In cases there likely wasn't anything wrong with them to begin with - it was 'just' life - i think that can happen a lot with what comes under some diagnoses of bi-polar (as well as others) - controversial to say - But it does appear to be the case. Any mention of that & people are up in arms, but what is really going on with some people? Some presentations of bi-polar (& other conditions) are obviously severe/extreme - But how do 'we'/anyone separate it all out? with some people it's very obviously far more a behavioral presentation & 'normal' range of psychology/emotions (given circumstances).

There is also the other side of the coin with people claiming that there is nothing wrong with them when they're quite obviously insane.

[All imo]
 
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You have got me thinking....

My husband simply cannot handle what I would consider minor anxiety,if he experiences it he rushes to the doctor,or even the hospital, right away.I,on the other hand,have experienced major panic attacks and dealt with them without seeing a doctor.

When he has described his symptoms to me during the anxiety,it hasn't sounded bad at all.I can't imagine his reaction if he ever had to experience the intensity of one of my panic attacks.

Yet,maybe even minor anxiety for him is experienced with as much intensity as my panic.Maybe its all about an individuals threshold and tolerance?I don't know.

There's a family member who is schizophrenic but claims he is perfectly fine,he believes that even when he is picked up by the police and court ordered into the hospital.Another family member complains how mentally unwell she is yet seems fine.

I thought I was completely fine yet I had undiagnosed DID.I simply wasn't aware that's what was going on.Once I was diagnosed I still didn't believe it.I actually never accepted the DX or believed it until after I was no longer dissociative,now in hindsight I can see it all so clearly and know that's really what it was.

Maybe the ones that don't try to help themselves and just seek sympathy and pity just can't see beyond what they are currently experiencing,like when I was DID.

I don't know..
 
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Why would anyone fake it? It is weird how many people have it. I have it but it's not fun in any way. I'm tired all the time and its very embarressing depending on whos out, more so if i'm co-present with them. I try to hide it if anything, only a few people on sites like this and my partner and psychotherapists know. I was wondering if anyone with did has experienced silence before? Today my head is silent and it feels uncomfortable, like something bad is going to happen. I should appreciate it but im worrying. I dont know how to start a new post so im really sorry for tagging on yours.

P.S. Soggy slippers-i agree with your post. I didnt know I had it for years, just didnt remember. It's horrible when you first remember, some days I think ive imagined it all and think im going completely crazy then its all so real again when youve experienced it. I find the alters im not co present with the most worrying. I dont know what they do or say. I know they watch my favourite tv programmes because I have to keep trying to re watch everything.
 
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