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Sorry I am just trying to help. :( I hope it goes the way you need it to go. Sorry again.
 
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no need to be sorry i was just explaining why i'm worried
 
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not really i was concerned about talk that if you pass the points, unless you get max on one of the descriptors your put on wrag it's a cut

if you think i'm commenting about you living with family, years ago the old lags would advise that people live in flats, don't hear that any more any more than you hear mental health workers on about high expressed emotion families and he'd be better off living by himself

all change and i'm getting long in the tooth
 
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not really i was concerned about talk that if you pass the points, unless you get max on one of the descriptors your put on wrag it's a cut

if you think i'm commenting about you living with family, years ago the old lags would advise that people live in flats, don't hear that any more any more than you hear mental health workers on about high expressed emotion families and he'd be better off living by himself

all change and i'm getting long in the tooth
Well, tbf, I need to move out because of reasons and the CMHT are talking about supported housing. It'll just be problematic because I have significant mental and physical health needs so I'm not sure it'll ever happen but I also can't cope living here anymore, so I guess we will find out idk.

I think you can still get SG if you're a known risk to yourself or if work related activity will make you deteriorate? Do you get PIP?
 
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that regulation about risk my women says it only applies on mandatory reconsideration or appeal, i think she's wrong and hasn't much experience of claims totally on mental health, but she hasn't tried for it, i get pip

heard someone on rethink web site saying mental health workers try to seperate people from carers and if they suceed things rapidly get very nasty behind the scenes
 
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i don't have much evidence no psychiatrist they've closed my case i live independently if i say i can't do things they'll ask how come your not dead, how are you surviving

the gp i've only seen for a year the last gp who retired had a psych qualification, this one hasn't
I'm in the same boat. Was under the mental health for about 3 years and now on the scrap heap. I can get back again if i go through a GP again.
I had no supporting letter. Nothing to take to the assessment. Just took my meds and my mother. I also live on my own,
Assessment lady was nice and everything went smoothly i felt but i've been here before.
I ended up in Wrag group. That was hell. Adviser pushing me etc.
Went through the appeal process which dragged on for months and months. Tribunal panel were a godsend and far more understanding. I was placed in the support group for 5 years.
Anyway had my assessment just before Xmas and the dreaded brown letter came friday.
I built myself up to fail and be put into the wrag group again.
The most important part of the letter said i was in the support group. It felt like i won a bet which it shouldn't feel like. It's because of the stress i went through when i was last in the Wrag group. I also can't live off the new pathetic rates.
My DLA has also just run out and i'm waiting for the paperwork.
I got MIND to fill in my forms which i personally think it helps. I also took my mother to the assessment this time which helped i believe because they ask her a couple of questions.
The only thing that concerns me is that there was no time frame in how long i was placed in the support group. Last time it said 5 years and that gave me breathing space not to worry myself silly.
 
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mind in brent went bankrupt think it's joined with another london mind but haven't heard the only thing i know is still going is they're employment women they got a recent grant for, she turned up at a group i go to, feel it says it all

they told me when i phoned it'd be 18 months it may have been 5 yrs

at least you've got your mother who they can assume is doing things for you, mine at the moment is 97 delusional with a kidney infection in a brum hospital, needless to say i'm a low priority to a family that have always played down the illness
 
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gp left message on answerphone she can only comment on my medical condition i need someone who knows me to comment on my behaviour

i just feel some stabilised on meds comment isn't going to be helpful with the dwp and the dwp aren't likely to respect anyone i know

if i have to appeal it could be 6 months or more on the assessment rate and i struggle to say the least with food banks

one friend says i avoid going out or situations that are stressful how that meets dwp criteria
 
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i've just got an appt for a assessment on fri 22 feb doing my head in, for god sake i'm 60 were diagnosed schitzoprenic at 19 on drugs that though they say i'm stabilised isn't fitness for work, i wonder what mental health qualifications the healthcare proffessional will have

then they'll look whether i fit their boxes off course i don't fit their physical health boxes i'm mentally ill

don't even know if i can find someone to go with me i'm so isolated a problem they don't ask about
 
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I don’t know if you’ve worked at all but do think that if you’ve been long term sick and it can be proved that you were ill.i.e taking relevant meds and with little chance of permenant employment you should be able to go on ill health retirement at 60. That would even do the governments figures good cos it would bring people off the unemployment/ sickness statistics
 
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theres no such thing as ill health retirement at 60 not on means tested benefits, just looked at the pension or pension credit web site on the goverment web site, 66 before you can claim

ill health retirement you need a long work history checked due to having schitzoprenia were for a long time perceived wisdom was people shouldn't work i don't
 
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I know there isn’t, but what I was saying that it’s something that should be considered. You can get ill health retirement from work which I had , and my friend also has, but it’s not a state pension. But it wouldn’t cost the government any more to place you on a pension. It would save money on staff at job centres having you sign on every two weeks or attending a wrag group. There going to be more and more people on sick as the retirement age increases and they would need to employ more people to cope with this.
 
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but i don't qualify, if the goverment does change the rules to allow long term benefit recipients the same rights as those working in say the nhs maybe, but nhs money comes from a different pot, as they say it might cost them if they have to section me but it's a different pot
 
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Of course you don’t qualify . Nobody does , What I’m saying is hypothetical it was a suggestion not a statement . I do know what the retirement age is. I just thought that in the next ten years the number on sick will only rise and this could take a lot of people off their figures
 
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