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I think in theory it can be helpful. But.....

With PTSD there is shame, and then shame about shame. It will only work to talk about the specific trauma when you are ready, and the problem is that talking about trauma is hard as it elicits feelings of shame.

I was offered it to help deal with a boy who kissed me at a party and then things went to far, without me consenting. I was in a CAMHS unit at the time as a day patient and was vulnerable. About the actual event, I really didn't think or feel a lot of it, a bit like having a haircut. That can be thought of as disassociation but actually I was neutral about the whole thing, a bit like I said like going to the hairdressers

What I really wanted to say (but couldn't) was that the real trauma had happened many years before. I lived with an auntie who was great after I couldn't live with my own family anymore (kinship care etc due to emotional abuse/neglect). My cousin had severe asthma and would take inhalers at night, I watched my auntie giving my cousin the inhalers and felt really sexually aroused. I was between 10-14 at the time. No-one had ever given me that amount of love or attention and I craved it badly. I was alone and would settle myself to sleep thinking about my cousin taking her inhalers, especially as since a young age, I would fantasise to soothe myself at night (I wouldn't be kissed or cuddled really and for a great extent I was left alone, which with time I preferred. My auntie loved me dearly and cuddled me, but I wanted someone to look after me like that). My dad was a very good man who ran a JCB business but worked in Ireland a lot (he's Irish as am I now after Brexit). He would sleep with me at night, with his back to me, the relationship with my dad is the most intimate one I have ever had and I feel great shame about that. I went through puberty with these experiences and now feel such shame as guilt as I have hardwired two fetishes into myself, that are affecting my ablity to experience more 'normal' sexual responses. The things that should arouse me don't, and the things that shouldn't arouse me do. I also have a very avoidant streak and get anxious at any hint of intimacy with new people.

Now, and it sounds peverse, but I could hold a blue inhaler in my hand and become aroused by it, or seeing someone use one, or me using one (I actually got prescribed one myself this year as I now have asthma, the exercise sort). I fantasise about this, and yet when I've tried to watch pornograghy to see if it 'did' anything, I felt anxious and frightened by it.

EMDR does work if it is the trauma you are thinking about to be tackled. I think its better for a specific rather than complex PTSD that is characterised by long periods of abandonment and abuse or neglect. But to talk about these things, especially when you worry about how you will react during the processing (I found that I really physically kicked out) is the hard bit. I am not sure if I would have EMDR for what I have described as I would worry about becoming sexually aroused in the session thinking about it. When you start talking to a psychologist transference will happen, and with time it will make it harder to talk about these things to that person as it can feel like they are the only ones who have looked at you without shame or blame and took an interest. That makes it a bit easier to live with yourself, but you live with 'truths' about yourself that are so painful to expose, and you won't jeopardise telling someone who you hope thinks highly of you, as you can't afford to damage that relationship. You hold on by a thread, and to speak of your shameful thoughts, you risk alientating the one person who you knows and looks at you without shame, even if they are paid to do so. Shame is huge in PTSD and I barely keep my head above water, using lots of avoidance, to hold off being crumpled by it.

FWIW, I got 'triggered' quite unexpectedly over the last two weeks. I felt really unwell physically and mentally. I had very violent dreams at night that would repeat over and over. People attacked me in the dreams and shouted 'paedophile' at me in the street. A much wanted baby I hoped for was taken away. I had constant tummy ache and dioreha. Shame flooded in and was dreadful to live with as it confirmed the worst aspects of myself. I cried for hours for days. I got scared to fall asleep as it was easier to stay awake.

I went to my GP in the end and he gave me some medication to take during the day to take the edge off the instrusive thoughts I had. In the end I was exhausted, physically and mentally, and just wanted the whole thing to end. I've finally slept and feel more like myself, but I feel really frightened by that recent experience. It was traumatic in its own right.
 
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I've had EMDR for PTSD and it was effective. You're very tired and emotional for a few days afterwards though. Maybe this is weird but all I wanted to eat after EMDR sessions was sweets.
When you first start it's really emotionally painful but it's worth it. It gets the traumatic events that are stuck to process through. It was life saving.
 
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Hi there, I'm currently undergoing treatment since September. It's difficult, but I've found more relief in the last couple of months than I've experienced with other treatments.

My sessions are 90 minutes. We'll usually do deep trauma work for three weeks, then a talk therapy session, then more deep trauma work.

I really, really connect with my therapist and I trust her. I'm always in control and I can stop at anytime. She is also very well-trained and a really good therapist; I think the therapist is just as important as the treatment.

I won't go into much detail about the actual sessions since there's so many descriptions online, which you can easily find 😊 It's also interesting to look up the brain scans of patients before and after EMDR.

I am on 200mg of sertraline, and I don't feel it affects it. I've been able to do some really good work. My therapist did mention that self-medicating between sessions can stall progress, and I'd say it's been true for me, so I stay mindful of that.

I've been using EMDR to work through significant complex trauma and complex PTSD. I've been in therapy for years, and before this, nothing could really touch the ugly little heart of the problem. But this method works really well for me, and in substantially less time.

I hope that was helpful!
I've had EMDR for PTSD and it was effective. You're very tired and emotional for a few days afterwards though. Maybe this is weird but all I wanted to eat after EMDR sessions was sweets.
When you first start it's really emotionally painful but it's worth it. It gets the traumatic events that are stuck to process through. It was life saving.
hi, I've been searching for info and other's experience with EMDR and any possible side effects. I've had trauma in my life so I'd say I've got PTSD and I heard about EMDR, it sounds like I could benefit from it. Now with the Covid-19 and variant viruses I could not get help irl so I was wondering about doing it myself, hearing about that you move your eyes from side to side while talking about your traumas? I'm wondering how do you do it and I hope I get the help that I need here. Thanks so tremendously
 
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I've got extraordinary anxiety currently from OCD w/ #'s related to bad things and events after switching from one medication to another too. I had a little after in September prior to the switch in medication that could've given me the same result had I not been treated so nicely and I'm wondering if EMDR can help with OCD too and social phobia from PTSD. Thanks so extraodinarily
 
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Emdr, has been doing miracles for a lot of people. It’s hard work and can be a bit draining. But it definitely taps into a different part of ur brain somehow. I felt that effect right away.
I did a few sessions if emdr and the lady was really nice and cool and waved her finger while I watched it. We had some practices to get adjusted etc. But i had relief from the few minor things we dug into. Usually they don’t start with something very traumatic. I had relief in areas of attachments issues almost right away. (I had to quit since I couldnt leave the house for several months.)

Ur lucky to be getting the treatment it can be quite expensive as well.
 
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yes you_can_call_me_colleen, i need to get the ugly problem out of the way called eye contact anxiety. i had it ever since bad experience in junior high school and i didn't express myself properly, thank you travelingSparrow again
 
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i wonder if all the emdr therapists are still doing their job online? then i could do emdr when I'm not taking courses like during the summer
 

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