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Anyone who had psychosis early intervention service can you just talk all about it./?

How long did it last? Did they let you see them when you want or did you have to have a strict routine for when they were available? Did you have to see anyone or was it just a psychiatrist prescribing medicine? How did they speak to your family? Did they change the medicine a lot and if so why? Ie everything about them. UK in paritcular.
 
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Anyone who had psychosis early intervention service can you just talk all about it./?

How long did it last? Did they let you see them when you want or did you have to have a strict routine for when they were available? Did you have to see anyone or was it just a psychiatrist prescribing medicine? How did they speak to your family? Did they change the medicine a lot and if so why? Ie everything about them. UK in paritcular.
Ive been under early intervention in psychosis for 2 years. you get 3 years with them for treatment. you will get a care coordinator who you will see weekly and you can see the psychiatrist when you need to. if they feel your meds need changing they may change them. Ive had a lot of med changes with them and finally found a combo that works for me.
they will only speak to you family if you want them to or unless your under section (which happened in my case) but otherwise they don't have to speak to your family. but they may feel talking to your family will help with their assessment but its up to you.
like I said I had a lot of med changes but that was because I had some bad side effects from some of the meds I was on so it took a while to find the meds Im on now which work well.

they are an amazing team. better than the CMHT because they have more time to spend with you. they usually offer therapy too for about 6 months with a psychologist. they are specialists in psychosis in young people so they are very qualified.

they are a good team to be under. if you get the chance to work with them take it. its the best team Ive ever been under. they really helped me a lot.

any more questions just ask. x
 
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I don't want them/help but it's forced so the thought of two years is mind boggling. However if people are overwhelmed by their problem, having any people offering help is really good.

But no, thanks. Anymore questions... hmm... I was going to say it's very crap how psychiatric drugs are the one drugs that truly have tonnes of sideffects, every single person. Doesn't that tell anyone remotely holistic that something is wrong with them. Oh yes; so, not writing about the early intervention anymore but researching the drugs, how have the drugs worked for you - how do you think they're literally making you better? Because the dopamine explanation aside, surely the drugs must change some kind of mood in order to change thoughts in order to change behaviour. So, how is it literally altering your mind?
 
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Did anyone have an early intervention service that was very short ie only 2 weeks or quite short: perhaps 2 or 3 months?
 
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I live in Canada and got hooked up with a similar service here. It was completely voluntary though and I was allowed to stop whenever I wanted. I didn't find them very helpful, but I'm not really a social butterfly. They had several outings over the week of which I might attend one. I'm not good at meeting new people though, even if they did have similar symptoms. There was trips like camping, potlucks, amusement park trip, billiards, and open jam sessions. There was also bi weekly meeting with my social worker, and nurse. Eventually September came around, I was moving cities for school and I hadn't had any symptoms for awhile, I was off mymeds so I said I was satisfied with my care. Lol hope that helps you in some way.
 
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Meetings where also at my discretion, I would sometimes cancel them. My psychiatrist wasn't a part of their team so I can't speak about that part. I also didn't want them to speak to my family. I was living on my own at the time and didn't want to bother them. The past few months I've had my psychosis come back and being in a bigger city I was initially turned off by the idea of E.p.i. But I decided to give them another shot. It's been a month so far and I've only had two meetings with a nurse. No word yet on activities and again I have a separate psychiatrist.
 
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So that's their magical way of curing positive or negative symptoms. The only reason I don't like this forced treatment everything about my rational brain tells me CBT and all of it is just magical junk that doesn't do anything. I think in the one I have the psychiatrist is part of the team. Thanks.
 
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I don't think their intent is to cure positive symptons, medication is supposed to help with that. Yes, that is their answer to negative symtons, putting you out there with other people like you, in order to socialize. I did think CBT was jargon as well, but I'm tired of hearing voices and having delusions so I'm trying to be more open minded. Your psychiatrist is the one in charge of your medication, so if you have any complaints about what your on you should talk to them. So far I've been on olanzapine -which helped for awhile, but made me sleepy during the day so I complain. And most recently switched to abilify/Aripiprazole.
 
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I've been on abilify for couple months almost. not sure if it was the hospital or the drug but spouts of sleepiness during the day. If I don't want drugs full stop I can't be incredibly open about them eg saying it's not doing anything if that's the truth because they'd just increase it. I'll talk about not havin gpositive symptoms with them. The problem is people think it works for negative symptoms but don't know how. It's very pseudoscientific. If you're young and you want abilify to possibly cure the hallucinations get the highest dose. They can't even detect/measure a persons chemical imbalance unlike hard physical health science where stuff can seen and measured. Surely the sleepiness isn't as bad as hearing voices though and delusions for that matter though I suppose you get used to those... even so.
 
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I've been advised that abilify will either cause sleepiness or alertfullness. That's why I was switched. Yes, I've gone through multiple increases. I was on 25mg of olzpne but I was falling asleep in class, on the bus, it was just to much. I'm on 10mg of abilfy, so we'll see what happens.
No, the sleepiness isn't as horrid as the hallucinations, but it was getting in my way of "my quality of life" let's say. I've been prescribed anti depressents as well. Cymbalta, but I don't care to take them. People who I'm close to don't think I'm depressed or display negative symptons, but new people do. So who cares?
 
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Were you sectioned? How come they let you decide so much what drug you want to take? You're under the early intervention service? My point about their socialising method is that they think the cure to not having a good time socialising is socialising ie just doing it anyway and hoping something changes rather than analysing what is bad about it and how to change that.
 
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Sectioned? Where is that a term?
I was "formed" here in Canada. I was in the hospital for...a week and a half?
That was back last June/July.
My circumstances are a little different, like I said my psychiatrist isn't a part of the EPI team.
I was referred to her by a friend of mine...and she's actually an addictions counsellor.
So I see her for different reasons as well, but she said she was willing to work with the team.
In the end though it's not like anyone can make you take meds?
How old are you? I'm 22 and live on my own. If I miss a pill that's on me.
If I don't want to take one, then thats my choice.
I tried Cymbalta straight for 3 months and didn't notice any alterations in my mood. Previously I had tried it for 6 weeks. So it was around new years that I started getting sloppy with taking it.
Same with olanzapine, the first time my symptons cleared up I stopped taking it cold turkey.
No side affects, no complaints. Until my psychosis came back of course.

Yes, I guess that is their solution.
But your motto or way of analyzing it reminds me of CBT.
Positive thinking? Correct me if I'm wrong, I only took an introductory course on it that they offered.
It was a 4 week course, I skipped the next week and then it got cancelled due to poor attendance lol.
So I missed out on the guts of it.
 

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