Ems if you'd been to the Older Persons Forum you'd know what I was on about - I had to go to a few last year as a bridging person. There are no young thinkers there. It's not getting old I mind it's being treated old that I can't stand! One of my friends is in his twenties and we have so much fun - I never want to get so old in my head that I can't have fun with him. And Daffy before you and any other members of the tea time club say anything - not that kind of fun!