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got the letter sat my dla is stopping on 7 dec and i've got to make a dla claim, you have to phone saying you want to did they took the gps details and the support worker who i was asssessed for last thur, they seemed to expect a specialist as well

When i told the women the diagbosis schitzoprenia she started talking about their regulations on fraud, matbe thats the next stage of the checklist they go through with everyone.

Seeing gp today made the appt 2 weeks ago after he was called out unexpectadly from the last appt and couldn't see me

i've decided i won;t try to make myself iller because i think it'll help though if i present as iller i'd probably get better references, when i was having problems in enfield enfield mind said i present as well and thats why i was been refused help

I'll try to get some information from the gp on what he'll put, so far he's been vague he did say he;d write that any cut in my income could have a serious effect on my health, my friend said they're a private company doing the assessing they won't care about that
 
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Good luck Rambo, i really hope it goes well for you! You've been worrying so long, maybe it'll be a relief to get it out of the way. It is so crap they don't just transfer the benefits for those with long term conditions. Do you have to fill the pip form in? You probably know about them but benefitsandwork.co.uk have some useful guides for how to go about filling the form in. Best of luck
 
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if you fill the form in because you have understood the questions, that will be held against you.

37% of PIP claims are successful first time round. That's all claims. Physical and mental. So even if the share of claims between the two groups was 50/50, that's about 17.5% who are successful first time round at a generous guess.

Makes me wonder who these people are that are being successful first time round. Maybe the ones who are canny enough to work out how to play the game. Which begs the question... which I won't bother pursuing, as benefits have always been a divisive battleground amongst claimants.

Get a welfare adviser, if you can find one.

But don't be too surprised if you join the queue of people plunged into poverty while the appeals process grinds on.

Whatever happens, it's just going to get much worse for everyone before it begins to get any better.

If you need cheering up on the day, have a little stroll round the staff car park. It's always a boost to see your entitlements being better spent.
 
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37.5% is 37.5 of both groups physical or mental it means 37.5 of mental possibly though yes i am worried depends what sucessful means i can't see them refusing to admit a schitzo is disabled by turning me down but whether i'll get the enhanced rate

my local dwp job centre the stafff car park is behing 10 foot automatic gates i've thought about it
 
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Had my latest PIP assessment 5 weeks ago, still waiting.
 
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Makes me wonder who these people are that are being successful first time round. Maybe the ones who are canny enough to work out how to play the game.
Bit cynical. I passed first time last year and would expect to because nothing has changed. Except there was a new one last time, had to close my eyes and touch my nose. Not sure about a game. Had my support worker with me and you just answer the questions best as you can.
 
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I don't have a support worker. I have a CPN but I'm a grown man and I went in by myself. Does your support worker accompany you a lot?

Also, what condition were you claiming for?
 
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I suppose my raging social conscience got the better of me.

Because I was letting them know before the assessment what I thought of the assessment. And I made it known to the physiotherapist that he was a cowboy. Ostensibly because he was a cowboy.

I didn't care what the outcome of that might be. I appreciate people keeping their heads down. Whether I like a person or not, whether I agree with their online persona or not, doesn't matter to me.

No-one should be subjected to a discriminatory assessment procedure.

I guessed it would put paid to any actual award.

0 points was a bit fresh but the physiotherapist did whine that I was undermining his profession. As the professional bodies later said to me, and agreed, he was undermining his own profession.

I'm a warrior. It's just my true nature.

But yeah just keep your head down. I can't do that. I'd rather have 0 points and my dignity.
 
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saw gp said if you mess me around i'm coming off my drugs i want you to understand that, he said as i was leaving why would you want to be mad, it's his lot who lied to me to encourage me to get addicted to drugs that make me unfit for work and gave me a vicious label, i am for better or worse in this situation, i have to live with it
 
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this is all from number 10s nudge unit.

the basis of it all is that the majority of people are malingering. this is not the first or the last wave of persecution the mad have gone through.

they are taking a strict behavioral approach of punish and reward. but as youll see, charlottle pickles wants to push this even further to actual sadistic perma-punishment.

that way who would ever choose to feign madness, when they see how perishing it all is?

i think because she herself is faking it til she makes it, then she assumes everyone must be.

she's is the worst of the lunatics. the ones that give the psychiatrists the slip.

london is much better equipped to help you. the unrecovered facebook group are worth getting in touch with. number one weapon of protection is the tape recording. they have bought a special machine and are helping people out.

they will lie otherwise. no mistake.
 
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no. i'm menaing to say that i am not in need of support to enter a capita building and talk to a cowboy physiotherapist. i did want to throttle him but ive had this condition for over 30 years and I can maintain control of my worse urges once a year with a stranger ill never meet again.

my point of view is, they are dealing in stereotypes but i dont feel compelled to act like a stereotype.

in other words, for me, that was an honest approach.

and honesty gets you nowhere.

if you need someone with you fair enough. i didn't mean to imply anything. i also dont need someone with me to go to the dentist; although i think going to the dentist is worse.

i suppose it depends how you feel about a non-mental health professional assessing you. to me, it was just like talking to some pompous bloke that proprs up the bar that has strong opinions on everyone that goes in.

maybe for you it was all a legit experience?

i dunno because you havent said what you were claiming for.

I was claiming for schizoaffective and im sure that i was a legitimate claimant.
 
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even though im not a big fan of labels.

just having to roll that out to the physiotherpaist was bad enough.

he was clueless. but why wouldn't he be?

im probably more aggressive than you. more bold.
 
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having someone with you helps, one friend was told if you were really ill you'd have someone with you, my unemployment group has the motto never go anywhere official alone

Asked gp if i could take extra sulpiride he wants me to take propanonol i said i don't want to get addicted he said they're not addictive i said they say the same about sulpiride but if you prefer i'd rather not have 2 dependencys instead of 1 he said i don't like the word dependency either your taking drugs to control an illness
 
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yes. i made a complete balls of it.

it was a bad time to be agitated.

but i honestly think that the outcome would have been the same, whatever happened. the atmosphere around here is apparently quite despairing. even the people in the sheltered housing are being refused. maybe some assessment centres are more hardcore than others.

i do not exaggerate in saying the physiotherapist was a psychopath.
 
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yes. i made a complete balls of it.

it was a bad time to be agitated.

but i honestly think that the outcome would have been the same, whatever happened. the atmosphere around here is apparently quite despairing. even the people in the sheltered housing are being refused. maybe some assessment centres are more hardcore than others.

i do not exaggerate in saying the physiotherapist was a psychopath.
you say you've got a cpn did you use her name for a reference, notice i've assumed her, i've been assessed for a support worker last thur, i'm using her as a reference she hardly knows me to give a reference, at least i saw the gp the dwp asks gps when they last saw you and judge the severity of the illness on whether your seen recently

From seeing my neighbour with a physical illness trying to get help and from that gps surgery the nhs is going through crisis, some might say expecting it to spend it's limited resources on 3000 a week in patient admissions that are preventable if people take meds is immoral
 
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maybe its not so harsh in london. it being so close to the seat of power.

i answered all the questions well. i think what went against me really badly was he wilfully ignored my actual answers. to actually dismiss all that i was saying, all legitimate examples, was no mean feat. he'd have been high fiving after i left. i mean. come on? 0 points. not even 1 point across any of the descriptors.

the only way he could do that was lie his way through.

maybe youll be one of the lucky ones.

they also didnt look at any recent medical evidence.

and there was an attempt to do a mandatory reconsideration before id even submitted my appeal.

they actually texted me and told me i must not contact them again now.

im glad i had lost trust at that point.

because it took me 3 hours of struggle for them to finally apologise and send me a full copy of the psysiotherapists report.
 
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I never go anywhere alone even to a GP appointment or my monthly injection I always take my support worker because it looks good on the benefit forms. I'm waiting for the PIP assessment forms and too am worried about the outcome.
 
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maybe its not so harsh in london. it being so close to the seat of power.

i answered all the questions well. i think what went against me really badly was he wilfully ignored my actual answers. to actually dismiss all that i was saying, all legitimate examples, was no mean feat. he'd have been high fiving after i left. i mean. come on? 0 points. not even 1 point across any of the descriptors.

the only way he could do that was lie his way through.

maybe youll be one of the lucky ones.

they also didnt look at any recent medical evidence.

and there was an attempt to do a mandatory reconsideration before id even submitted my appeal.

they actually texted me and told me i must not contact them again now.

im glad i had lost trust at that point.

because it took me 3 hours of struggle for them to finally apologise and send me a full copy of the psysiotherapists report.
i think it's harsher in london with the idea theres jobs for everyone the onus is on you to prove illness, what i call the london lesson, i learnt it in london
 
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it doesnt matter what evidence you submit. it doesnt matter whether you go alone or with someone else. it doesnt matter if your foaming at the mouth or meek as a church mouse.

its all on the whim of a non mental health professional.

mine was a physiotherapist. he wasn't a day over 25. he had absolutely no clue about mental health issues. and he was earning a lot more money than he could actually being a physiotherapist.

the dwp promised to obtain medical evidence before making a decision.

they didnt.

they made a decision purely based on my answers in the form, the physiotherapists gcse homework submission about me, and, after long and arduous haranguing, they claimed to have a peep at a 10 year old DLA claim form, that resulted in a lifetime award.

and i got 0 points.

my cpn has submitted a medical report now. and i am supposed to be writing a letter explaining why a physiotherapist got it all wrong.

i still havent been able to bring myself to do that.

because every time i look at his report i go into a rage. and ragey prose doesnt go down well with the dwp. i assume.
 

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