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Dizziness due to anxiety or vice versa.

Mdeey

Mdeey

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Hello,

I just came across this forum and it looks like the perfect place to discuss some thoughts.

I've been dealing with anxiety for about 5 years now, which I didn't know until a year ago. I’ll skip that part for now..
So for the past 2 years I’ve been experiencing these weird balance issues. Now I hear you thinking; “dizziness is like the number one symptom of anxiety”. I know, but I have this extreme feeling that this is caused by something else. “Ok, typical for anxiety disorders, thinking physical complications have their own cause. Hypochondria?”.
I am aware, I’ve had these radical thoughts in the past; brain tumor, cancer, etc. This is different, not just because I’ve experienced this for years, so please stay with me.


I mainly want to see if there’s anyone with the same kind of balance issues together with a pretty much similar anxiety disorder.

So for me, my anxiety and overall mental condition is way better than it was. I don’t have (major) panic attacks anymore, no dissociation, no radical thoughts as said earlier. Just a lot of stress. That’s when I’m at home at least. And, without work or nearby-friends, I’m always home.
As soon as I go to the store, panic kicks in; sensory overload, too much light, people, sound, smell. So I rush through the store.. Worst part is checkout, I can’t wait when I’m anxious.
It’s even worse when I go for a haircut. It’s hard to describe, to think about it even. There’s so much going on in my head, but it all comes down to realising every moment my ‘panic meter’ reaches 100, I have to jump from this chair - maybe give an excuse - and run outside.

It’s crazy how we have a panic attack going on, but apart from that also have to evaluate situations, consider possibilities and already experience the insane embarrassment.


Ok so for this weird balance thing. Unlike my stress/anxiety I experience this almost all the time, which is the first indicator. It’s the worst when I stand or walk slowly and it’s not always the same. Sometimes it feels like walking on air mattresses, or a dish that will rotate left or right when stepping on it. Sometimes it’s all fine but all of a sudden you drop (like taking an extra step at the stairs). Or the floor seems tilted.
Walking outside is no problem but after 30 minutes your legs are like shock-absorbers, just as walking on these big metal plates.
Now what’s typical for this type of dizziness is that I also experience it while lying down, but in a complete different way.
Now when I move any part of my legs it feels like my whole body makes a bigger move, if that makes sense. This also happens when I’m in a chair and someone/something unexpectedly moves this chair just slightly, it makes me ‘flip’ 3 times.
The more active this condition is, the more pain I feel in a certain part of my back. I can also trigger the same (false) feeling of movement when I press on that spot.


Long story short; I would describe it as a communication error between body and brain (proprioception). That’s why I think this is a neurological problem.

Anxiety related dizziness is generally near syncope (lightheadedness), which happens when your brain doesn’t get enough oxygen/blood. Makes sense.
I’ve had this due to hyperventilation and it’s definitely not it.
Vertigo, where you or your surroundings spin, is something else.
MdDS sounds similar, but is triggered by sea travel or other particular movement.


If your anxiety issues sound similar and you do experience dizziness, let me know what it’s like!
And feel free to ask for any more information.

Thank you.
 
Mdeey

Mdeey

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I forgot the most important part:
Not only do I think this balance issue is something medical, but because of that, I think that it actually triggers my anxiety. As I can have a perfect day (mentally) untill I go outside, notice my legs aren't 'working' and I start panicking.

This is what I really want to figure out.
It does make complete sense to me: when there's no stability in the body, how does one stabilize the mind.
 
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Ryann90

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I forgot the most important part:
Not only do I think this balance issue is something medical, but because of that, I think that it actually triggers my anxiety. As I can have a perfect day (mentally) untill I go outside, notice my legs aren't 'working' and I start panicking.

This is what I really want to figure out.
It does make complete sense to me: when there's no stability in the body, how does one stabilize the mind.
Omg this is me I suffer from the same thing. It is really difficult have you tried any medication for it ?
 
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Alecorn

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Dear Mdeey,

I've just entered this forum but I'll answer you anyways...
In my case I've been like one year with a dizziness and instability when walking and, the most annoying one: the overreacting nervous system.

When I'm anxious (which was the most of the time and now a few hours a day) any minor movement (deformation of the chair, vibration of the train, irregularities of the floor) made me feel like I was going to fall but never happened, it's like an ilusion.

Additionally I went a lot of times to the doctor just to discard phisical problems and they never found anything weird, I'm healthy apparently...

The key question is that I noticed that I get worse when I'm in stressing situations (like oral expositions, meetings, etc) so this means that must be something psicological rather that physical.

I hope we can share some experiences,

A.
 
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Beks1989

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Hi
I know how you feel everything you have mentioned i have suffered with for years i feel your pain
Some day are better than others
I swear one day i am going to fall over in the bright supermarket and make a fool of myself but i never have yet i have found that even though i want to rush and get out as soon as i can i have started purposley slowing down when i feel like this kind of teasing out the anxiety and think you no what lets just see if anything does actually happen here it never does.
I now and again get hot and shaky but i just stop and pretend i am looking at something in one of the shelves give myself a breather and calmy continue.
I too hate checkouts i full on panic its something to do with right all my stuff is on the line now theres people behind me on the que i cant go anywhere i would look a fool if i just walked away and left
Thats something im still coming to terms with i try to think of what i will have for tea that night or the food other people are buying you have to take your mind away from the panic and the what ifs
You maybe havent noticed awell i didnt for a while but when you are rushing through the shops you wont be breating properly you will be taking short fast breaths try and maybe concentrate on breathing slow and deep and that will help the dizziness too.
I hope this has helped sorry for the long winded reply 😀
 
Mdeey

Mdeey

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Thanks for your replies.

Omg this is me I suffer from the same thing. It is really difficult have you tried any medication for it ?
I have never been diagnosed with any balance disorder. So, no. Besides, I'm not in favour of taking medication at all. Though, it can't always be avoided.
How about you?
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@Alecorn
For how long have you been experiencing anxiety, just one year aswell? The balance thing indeed is like an illusion; very sudden drops, as if you're falling which last less than a second. How often do they occur for you? For me when I'm standing or walking around the house it's almost constant. When I sit or walk outside it's rare.
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@Beks1989
What you describe about the supermarket is exactly me, especially the checkout.
About your tip; When I said rushing through the store, I didn't mean in a way that exhausts or like bad breathing.
Also the balance issues aren't a result of bad breathing, that'd be lightheadedness. Which is a type of dizziness anyone could reproduce by inflating balloons. And that's far from what I'm experiencing.
To better understand what I'm feeling you could look up things like propioception or spatial disorientation. It's pretty much similar to when you're in a train, looking at a train next to you. You start moving, but suddenly realise it's the other train that's moving. That short moment of confusion, is basically what I feel constantly.
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As an update to my own story. I have actually been to a neurologist for this balance thing specifially. They did some tests but couldn't see anything. They said it's most likely a result of my lifestyle; sitting and looking at screens a lot.
It would appearently 'untrain' your sensory input in terms of balance. You could train this by being more active physically and balance exercises.

I have mixed feelings about this.. Knowing how many people work 40+ hours a week behind computers, this should be a more common complaint..
 
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