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Disabled charities attack fit-to-work tests after 1m people denied benefit

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.......there are many hard-working people who've paid into the system all their life and so naively assumed that the safety-net would be there for them when they needed it, no questions asked.

Many have now discovered otherwise, to their great shock and anger.
Bit of a different story & a change of tune when people realise they could be effected by it all as well.
 
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The trouble is, for everyone that withdraws their claim then this lot have won.
I could have walked away many, many times, yes it is degrading, but what choice is there when you are ill, and have no other means of support.

This is what they want and are aiming for - to embarrass us into not claiming - I do not have the luxury of being able to feel embarrassed I need that support.

Maybe people with NO MH records may have decided to stay in work and soldier on , how do people who already have that well documented on their records go about it, because it is not going to happen, no firm is going to take on someone with long standing MH issues, so what this report says is rubbish - there is no way back into work for us, not sustainable work that pays us a living wage.

I am ashamed to say i couldn't cope with fighting the system anymore, and gave up after a failed tribunial, although i was told to start a new claim by lawyer, as since my ATOS (bastards) assessment i had had a diagnosis and was undergoing treatment, but it took nearly two years to get to court and they could only go on what was said and asked at that bloody assessment, i was really ill with the stress, in a constant fibro flair and i couldn't cope with it.. stupidly thinking that work was the least of two evils... however, i am in tears right now, and so much pain and i have to go to work in two hours, every bit of me hurts and i want to die, i can't do this! i just want the pain to stop... i get no support at work just bullied as i have health issues, my manager is a prick, told me i was no use to him as i had cognitive problems, he breached the equality act 2010 by the things he said he's a taster "if you can't learn straight away your are no use to me, i don't have time to pander to you" i called ACAS and then went armed to human resources but its changed nothing, i am being ignored and left to struggle, the stress is horrendous, all i do is work then sleep no energy left to even hug my children NONE! My children are missirable too, at least when i was ill at home i could paint a face on for them coming in, sleep during the day when my body was attacking me and pretend to be okay for them in the evening, but i can't hide it now, i can't pretend anymore not even for the odd hour i see my kids, i have had accidents in work that sent me to A&E i miss at least a day a week with the migraines its killing me, i am so scared of where this will lead:panic:
 
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Hi Milkshake

It sounds to me from what you've written that the workplace you're in is harming your physical and mental health wellbeing. It also seems like your boss is unlikely to change their approach and unsupportive ways any time soon. I'm so sorry to hear that you have to put up with this idiocy. :hug1:

Do you see regular health professionals due to your health?
 
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Yes Wiseowl i was seeing my psych for 18 months prior to being forced by Job Seekers into taking the position, i left too soon though and didn't complete the EMDR that i was undergoing to deal with the PTSD, i still see my GP regular

because of bad lighting at work and a dizzy episode with the Fibro due to stress, i had a bad fall at work that put me in casualty, i was black a blue with a nasty sprain to boot, i was unfit to attend work next day as my body shut down to deal with the pain... it seems to have triggered a fibro flair and now i have constant migraines again, the work have covered their own backs and followed procedure, but every day i have to take off because of the Fibro i get docked a days wage witch means we are struggling financially, doc put me on Stemital again to deal with dizzy spells but it doesn't help with the slurred speech i get when exhausted, i am a hazard i don't mean to be but i am, its normal for me to trip and fall and bang into things, but it is exacerbated when i am stressed, i am waiting to see neurology, the day after my fall i was in so much pain my GP came out to the house i told them i couldn't stand up, i felt drunk, i think when he first seen me he suspected a stroke , i am not fit for stressful positions i don't know if i am fit for work any work full stop! but what choice do i have the system has fucked me over i have a hidden illness both mental and physical illnesses, suicide thoughts have been my constant shadow, these past few months the urge to walk out in traffic is so strong that i am even scaring myself, i am made to feel worthless, by work, by the system, by the media, by family and many others inc my Ex

I live in constant pain and fear, even animals get put out their misery:cry2:
 
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I think you have a strong case for ESA. Often the difficulty with ESA is knowing how to put down the information into DWP speak.

Has it been over 6 months since your last ESA application?

Do you have records of some of the incidents you describe? :hug1:

Would your doctor be willing to write (there may be a fee) a detailed report of your condition including times they have been called out?
 
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Yes to all the above and for those i don't, obtaining them wont be difficult, my own GP when i see him (big practice) is very supportive, he was and is very angry that i was put through hell and that they pretty much called him, me and my psychologist liars, he tries to fix people, help people then the system fucks us over again, it a vicious circle and i want to get off the roundabout, i don't want to play anymore! this is what the system wants, to drive us into oblivion, i don't want the bastards to grind me down i try to be brave, but its so hard
 
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Having read what you've posted it seems like work is just pushing everything to the limit and that isn't a safe place to be. I think that needs to emphasised in any evidence submitted to ATOS.

I completely understand not wanting to enter that process again it is dehumanising but I'm just wondering how long you can keep going without something changing. :hug1:

It is difficult always having to fight and unless you've been in a similar situation it is difficult to understand how horrible it feels.

What sector do you work in? Do you work full time? :hug1:
 
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I am ashamed to say i couldn't cope with fighting the system anymore, and gave up after a failed tribunial, although i was told to start a new claim by lawyer, as since my ATOS (bastards) assessment i had had a diagnosis and was undergoing treatment, but it took nearly two years to get to court and they could only go on what was said and asked at that bloody assessment, i was really ill with the stress, in a constant fibro flair and i couldn't cope with it.. stupidly thinking that work was the least of two evils... however, i am in tears right now, and so much pain and i have to go to work in two hours, every bit of me hurts and i want to die, i can't do this! i just want the pain to stop... i get no support at work just bullied as i have health issues, my manager is a prick, told me i was no use to him as i had cognitive problems, he breached the equality act 2010 by the things he said he's a taster "if you can't learn straight away your are no use to me, i don't have time to pander to you" i called ACAS and then went armed to human resources but its changed nothing, i am being ignored and left to struggle, the stress is horrendous, all i do is work then sleep no energy left to even hug my children NONE! My children are missirable too, at least when i was ill at home i could paint a face on for them coming in, sleep during the day when my body was attacking me and pretend to be okay for them in the evening, but i can't hide it now, i can't pretend anymore not even for the odd hour i see my kids, i have had accidents in work that sent me to A&E i miss at least a day a week with the migraines its killing me, i am so scared of where this will lead:panic:
OH I do understand, and I know exactly what you mean.
I was not in work I went to claiming JSA after my ex left me, then onto ESA.
Compared to some people's stories, I have been relatively lucky so far (the worst was being refused DLA) and being treated like an idiot by the tribunal panel - that sent me spiraling downwards.

I am so sorry you are being put through this, like Wiseowl, I wonder how long you can keep it up.
The further down you slip the harder it is to rise up again.
You have to make the choice between the lesser of two evils (or it seems like that to me) but you must put you first.

Remember the degradation that ATOS put us through lasts but a short time, medical then back home again. Pain is often irreversible, and causes much longer damage.

Hope you manage to get something sorted very soon.

xxxx
 
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