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Cyclothymia or bipolar II?

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Ofglen

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I've been told cyclothymia by one psychiatrist and bipolar II by another - but neither diagnosis is 'official' yet.

I experience 2 week to 6 month long periods of depression. They vary in severity from crippling pessimism, inability to leave my house due to fatigue, thoughts (no plans) of suicide, overdosing and self-harm to what I would describe as moderate depression, with intense fatigue, loss of pleasure in hobbies, no desire to socialise, anxiety and sleeping 12-15 hours every night.

I also experience short periods (3-7 days of intense optimism, high productivity, lack of impulse control, expensive talkativeness and an abnormally great amount of energy. These periods almost exactly fit the criteria for hypomania in my opinion. Usually they increase my functioning and are quite pleasant and allow me to do a lot, but occasionally they become scary as I lose control of my thoughts and my body - I have tried to pack a bag and leave for France, thought of committing suicide for 'fun' (I had no idea of the reality of this) and my energy level is so high I was only just able to stop my legs from moving before I walked into the road by accident. In this state I care about very little, but it soon turns sour and I become depressed, leading to self harm and feelings of shame at my earlier behaviour while in an 'up' mood.

In between these periods I can be stable for anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months - the winter tends to trigger my depression and when I'm experiencing a lot of stress my normal periods tend to be much shorter - only a week or so.

One psychiatrist told me my experiences werent 'out of control' enough to warrant a bipolar diagnosis, and I appreciate they're not like some peoples symptoms such as walking around naked or spending a fortune, but they concern me greatly and I really do worry I'll lose control completely and do something terrible to myself.

Does this sound like anybody else's experience of cyclothymia or bipolar ii? What do I do about my psychiatrists differing opinions?
 
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Hello, Ofglen, welcome to the forum. I have had multiple diagnosis, and am currently bipolar. Understand what you mean about extreme mental states. Have had trouble all my life and long periods of homelessness. Am on medications that have helped, but still have difficult times.
 
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Hi, you sound very much like me. I think of myself as cyclothymic...but my depressions are so much worse than they supposedly should be, so possibly bipolar II. I dunno. I think it's awful that some professionals don't seem to want to help much unless you've been committed, or have actually attempted suicide. My doctor is the same. But this condition ruins lives. Keep trying different doctors, if you can, until you get the help you need.
 
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I've been told cyclothymia by one psychiatrist and bipolar II by another - but neither diagnosis is 'official' yet.

I experience 2 week to 6 month long periods of depression. They vary in severity from crippling pessimism, inability to leave my house due to fatigue, thoughts (no plans) of suicide, overdosing and self-harm to what I would describe as moderate depression, with intense fatigue, loss of pleasure in hobbies, no desire to socialise, anxiety and sleeping 12-15 hours every night.

I also experience short periods (3-7 days of intense optimism, high productivity, lack of impulse control, expensive talkativeness and an abnormally great amount of energy. These periods almost exactly fit the criteria for hypomania in my opinion. Usually they increase my functioning and are quite pleasant and allow me to do a lot, but occasionally they become scary as I lose control of my thoughts and my body - I have tried to pack a bag and leave for France, thought of committing suicide for 'fun' (I had no idea of the reality of this) and my energy level is so high I was only just able to stop my legs from moving before I walked into the road by accident. In this state I care about very little, but it soon turns sour and I become depressed, leading to self harm and feelings of shame at my earlier behaviour while in an 'up' mood.

In between these periods I can be stable for anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months - the winter tends to trigger my depression and when I'm experiencing a lot of stress my normal periods tend to be much shorter - only a week or so.

One psychiatrist told me my experiences werent 'out of control' enough to warrant a bipolar diagnosis, and I appreciate they're not like some peoples symptoms such as walking around naked or spending a fortune, but they concern me greatly and I really do worry I'll lose control completely and do something terrible to myself.

Does this sound like anybody else's experience of cyclothymia or bipolar ii? What do I do about my psychiatrists differing opinions?
Hello, actually I don't know :)

But what will change if you have bipolar II or cyclothymia? I'm asking because I'm not sure about the treatment of cyclothymia, is it different from bipolar II?
 
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for now, stick with the cyclothymia

it's such a beautiful word

be patient

you will be drugged beyond all you have ever faced up to this point

then you can consider an upgrade
 
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hi I'm the same been diagnosed cyclothymic disorder but just spent 24 hours in a&e overdose, just seem to think my symptoms are far too extreme am in a bad place at the moment but im sure I will be ok. good luck I hope you sort things out.
 
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Hey parkscon, that sounds terrible. I'm pretty bad myself at the moment. But it will get better...take care of yourself! Talk to me if you ever need to talk :)
 
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This sounds a great deal like my own circumstances.. and I've been "officially" diagnosed with cyclothymia. It's been a couple of years since you posted this.. how are you doing now..??
 
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parkscon

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Hi there thanks for your reply ive come a long way since I posted this post unfortunatly my cyclothymia has turned into bipolar2 I'm told this is normaly the case but I'm on the correct meds stable and in good hands.
Thanks for asking,
Kevin.
 
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