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Cranial electrotherapy stimulation for depression/insomnia

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I want to start this thread with a few provisos.

First, my particular body chemistry is very sensitive to any medication. So what works for me, may not work for you.

Second, I have had chronic insomnia for close to 20 years now and have been taking prescribed medication in one form or another for all this time. I also suffer from depression and anxiety on top of a bpd diagnosis. So my experience may have some psychosomatic elements to it. (If you are desperate for relief you tend to be more suggestible etc.)

That said, I have been trying the Fisher Wallace CES Fisher Wallace for two days now and I can already feel a difference.

The best way I can describe the feeling is like taking cold medication for a runny nose. I feel like my head is no longer clogged up, that I can “breathe” again. My brain feels like it has been dusted, with debris removed. I feel lighter, in better spirits, and I am slowly reducing the sleep aid dose I am taking ... and still sleeping really well.

It’s remarkable.

Now the device is quite expensive, which is why I wanted to put the warning at the top. (And please don’t send me private messages asking me to buy you one, I was annoyed by that; I will just block you. It’s not fair to ask that). But if I feel this great after day two, then maybe there is something to it. There are cheap versions out on the market. I would not recommend buying any of those .. It’s your brain!! I also read that some can be partially funded with a doctors prescription, so it may be worth investigating.

But if you are having issues with depression, insomnia or anxiety, it may help.

I did my research. Fisher Wallace had been cleared for consumer use by Health Canada. I did not research any other vendors like Alpha Stim.

I will keep updating this thread as I progress. It would be wonderful to be able to dump the prescription after all these years.

Really optimistic and feeling wonderful after a solid night’s sleep. It’s like my head feels lighter.
 
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When you place the sponges on the side of your head and turn the machine on, there’s no sensation. Just sometimes flashes of light at your peripheral vision. There’s no jolting feeling, although you do get dripped on with the soaked wet sponges.

You turn the machine on for 20 minutes and it automatically shuts off. It recommends you only go up to level two to start and I’m finding this works for me.

Once the insomnia, anxiety or depression starts to lift, you only do it once a week or less, but when you start it recommends a twenty minute session, twice a day. I’m finding once a day, about an hour before bedtime, is enough.

The device is old looking, like it could have been made in the 70s, and it probably was. But it appears to work! :)
 
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I would be too scared to do this . Actually a fear of mine it recommended or demanded by doctor.
 
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Day four. I’ll be darned but this thing actually works. I’ve reduced my sleeping meds, I’m still sleeping well and my mood is reasonably good for the stress I’m currently experiencing.

I still have moods, sad, happy etc, but the deep bottom I have with depression isn’t so deep anymore. I am bouncing back faster. My head oddly feels lighter. It feels like I have gained a bandaid vs depression, and my inclination to drink to combat anxiety has dissipated.

I do get a bit sleepy towards the end of the afternoon, but nothing that interferes with my work. I assume it’s because my body is getting used to the new treatment. I am still only using it once a day, an hour before bedtime. I think if I used it twice a day I’d fall asleep.
 
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Another interesting result from using the CES -- I am experiencing a very stressful period of time and my typical go-to for self soothing has been alcohol. I know it's not a good choice and I have wished that it wasn't something I abused or binged.

Last night was stressful. I had a drink.

And then guess what? I found I couldn't/didn't want another. This is unheard of before the CES. Once I have one, I typically binge until I fall asleep.

So it appears the CES is helping with more than just mood and insomnia.

Neat! Neat! :)

The brain still feels light .. but there's an odd sensation of having no emotions now. Or dulled emotions. It's like taking a powerful anti-depressant that shuts off feelings. I can sense the happy/sad, but it doesn't drown me anymore. I'm not sure that's a great thing, but for the short-term I'll adapt/adjust. I'm concerned that it's making me a bit robotic.
 
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Your posts are really interesting/helpful. Re the robotic feeling. Could it.be you need to cut down use?

I hope it continues to work for you. You're the first person i can trust to say. Everyone else is in adverts.

Let us know please.
 
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I need to be more consistent in its use. I am using is about three out of seven days of the week, and on the days I do use it, I notice a difference.

There is an element of paranoia about the robot feelings and earlier this week I felt spacey and in a fog, but can be attributed to stress I’m dealing with. My therapist said the device won’t cause the fog. She is interested in seeing how it impacts my desire to drink. She doesn’t think it will hurt me at all. And I trust her.

I will do a full seven days starting next week.
 
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I am very interested.

As you say, we're all different so buying one is a risk. I have friends with mental health problems and it occurs to me that if I got one and it didn't work i could let my friends try it.
 
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Stopped using it for a couple of days and returned to a once daily 20 minute session on Sunday. Also reduced my sleep medication, think it was too soon, because had an emotional meltdown yesterday.

Increased the strength to three dots (out of four) last night, and find my emotions under control today. That could be because I upped the medication again though. I’m cognizant of the placebo effect, but I didn’t experience the muted anxiety until the second day in a row using the device.

Will continue a full seven days this time and report back
 
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Just a thought but the spacey feelings might be stuff releasing and see if you can stay with it for now. I have no idea what this gadget is .

Anyway steady as you go. I really do hope that it works for you. Sorry about the emotional meltdown hope that you continue moving forwards. In life its mostly two step forwards and one step back
 
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Well the good news with it is that it absolutely kills my desire to drink. So I suppose that’s something.

You may be right about the fuzzy feeling. Like with all new medication, there’s an adjustment period, and honestly it could be attributed to other stress. I asked my therapist about it, and while she is not endorsing its use (mostly because there are not enough formal medical studies on it); she said it won’t hurt me or cause the fog.
 
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Hi

Thanks for your report. Hope this week goes well. x
 
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Could someone suggest me on CESULTRA(www.cesultra.com) device.. is it also similar one that we are discussing here?Thank you
 
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Hi girl interrupted

Did you do a full week of the cranial therapy?
 
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