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cognative impairment, any one have one? this is serious, please help,

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Well if you get PIP at £200 pm
ESA say £500 pm
Plus housing benefit I assume this covers the basic rent on say a small flat.

You should be able to survive unless the drink is out of control but you mentioned something people taking money off you, which I can’t quite understand?.

In fact your doing better than me because I don’t get PIP, so your £200 pm better off than me and I have a small loan but at high interest rates, so there goes £100pm in interest. Really your potentially £300 per month better of than me and you might be getting support from your parents on top.

Are you drinking heavily Sarah?, what’s your alcohol consumption like? And are people taking money of you?, say some sort of backdated overpayment you are repaying monthly. I have a companion (Rosie) who is making a sort of backdated overpayment per month in relation to DLA.
 
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Its too complex to explain, I have to deal with everything myself, my family just ignore me at the cost of the circumstances today, my knowledge is mine, ie mental, the authorties want to cover up the truth, so do my family, as they don't want to hear the truth, I said what was going on nealy five years, before I tried to sort this mess out, to be landed with lot, know my dad is at the doctors slagging off again because of what I have been saying ie court of protection, he is trying to get me locked up to, for what he has caused me, I have been threatened with the police, if I have had a drink, because its the drinks fault, (the mentallyill are treated like shit by the police, I new that growing up) when the police and social services are behind this and he has caused it, the drink isn't the problem its my family is ignorance when it was there to see, growing up just ignored and brushed under the carpet.

I pay my parents 100.00 a month, still, my mom does my washing, and I was mainly at my parents as I couldn't manage everything with shit I have had thrown at me.


No, im not, but it gets the blame for everything, unfounatly its ignorance, just like I grew up with it.


Now im not repaying any money, I have just been spending the money they owed me.

Are people taking money off you, that was your question

When you eating you food in a reastaurant, you should be able to do this of your own free will, not to be o be told she was a social worker, ie the local authority I am under, (of course they can make an application, in my name to London office, then have it transferred to the local court, then the social workers can take your file with them) the court of protection, ie a debutyship for health and welfare, they control your finances, ie your benefits, if I had irreversible brain damage how would I know, my concern is that they could spend my money for me and I would have not know, just like they saw a victim because they caused it, ie the special school, and they stole my life for ten pounds for behaviour caused by everyone else
 
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Ok you pay your parents £100 per month for laundry and I assume you may possibly receive meals, you mention restaurant well what can I say let’s ignore that. Other than your parents for laundry and I assume a few meals no one else is taking money off you, it’s not like your servicing loans or repaying benefits that were overplayed.

So I would say that leaves you £200 better off than me, I don’t need to know other bills, rates, utilities, personal food (shopping) because they will be the same roughly as mine.

Do you have a car?, I don’t drive a car. That might be £100 a month out of the sort of excess £200 a month you have sort of free money.

And again you’ve mentioned alcohol in a number of posts, but when I specifically asked your alcohol consumption on a daily basis, your ignored the question. What is your daily consumption of alcohol? (or how much on average per day do you spend), that I assume you are spending £200 of free money on (well £100 if you have a car) well alcohol.
 
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Thanks for the reply! That seems a lot more clear to me. I'm glad that there are so many helpful people here :)
 
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Hi Sarah Jane

Do you have an advocate who works with you, and for you, on the issues that you are facing?

It appears that there are a lot of issues happening. Perhaps you could sit down with someone totally independent from the 'system' to listen in person to what has been happening to you, to look together at what you'd like to change, to work out with you what are priorities and then together work on making the things happen.

Do you think having a person around like this would help?

If you don't have anyone that you'd trust to do this with you, you could ask for an independent advocate from an independent advocacy organisation. I can get you some contacts if it would help.

The reason I think this might be helpful is that you've had a lot of very significant things happen in your life, you've got a lot of conflict going on by the sounds of things and it sounds like you'd like to take some action to regain the control to manage your own life. It's good to have someone to listen to you and then work with to achieve what you are wanting.

It also sounds as if you've got some significant legal issues that you might need help with. Do you have a lawyer you trust and is committed to working for you?

By the way have you heard of the organisation In Control? It's a national organisation which supports people around self-directed support. Self-directed support is jargon for people being in control of the support they need to live the life they choose. Their contact details can be found here. They may know someone locally who may be able to help you.

Do these things help?
 
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Hi mischief, just woke up, as I’m really shattered by everything, I was going to try and do something, instead I had to go bed, I had been speaking to solitor about birth injury, explaining why it has lead up to events that I know face myself with today, she could not recommend anything except usual channels, unfortunately there are loop holes in the law, ie statue time limitations, ie both education and birth, the thing is back then, I didn’t know working would back fire and leave me with the mess, I’m faced with today, which was linked to the abuse in the special school.

I have read your detailed post, thank you very much, I will read the links and get back to you.
I do not have an advocate, maybe it might help, that sounds a good idea, anyone independent of the authorities, I did have one in 2007, just lost contact with her, over ten years ago, like everything else, that hasn’t been sorted out. unfortunately I’m sent around in circles, chasing ghosts, no I don’t as they cost money, unfortunately and on benefits for behaviour caused by the authorities, placed in a behaviour program of hell, because my family went on about it, for neuroscience and research
All the bullshit is a front for it, just like saved to fund this hell.

Yes, what you have said does help, getting around the legality of the authorities using the family as an excuse to cover up institutional abuse again, is going to be a problem, unfortunately my family are converted in there views, no wonder I never said anything growing up.
 
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Hi Mary, like I have said in my posts, I wrote my car of in 2005, I haven’t drove since then, ie they revoked my license, due to the accident, like I said the psychiatrist that has left, in 2002, got my back for one year, unfortunately I was supposed to reply, but the authorities caused me more stress, so it went out the window.
As for the drinking not sure what I spend, like everything else I loose track, not had nothing to drink today, or yesterday or Sunday, I have fractured ankle because of the body snatchers, so getting about is restricted, I hope that explains it, the issues are more than money at moment, I don’t know if you have read all the posts, anyway you welcome to post, thanks
 
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Sorry I meant 2012, not 2002
 
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Hi Mary, like I have said in my posts, I wrote my car of in 2005, I haven’t drove since then, ie they revoked my license, due to the accident, like I said the psychiatrist that has left, in 2002, got my back for one year, unfortunately I was supposed to reply, but the authorities caused me more stress, so it went out the window.
As for the drinking not sure what I spend, like everything else I loose track, not had nothing to drink today, or yesterday or Sunday, I have fractured ankle because of the body snatchers, so getting about is restricted, I hope that explains it, the issues are more than money at moment, I don’t know if you have read all the posts, anyway you welcome to post, thanks
The issues are more than money, your mental health is of principal importance. But if you are in a stable financial position people can consider your mental health against that backdrop.

If you can afford on a daily basis to ‘live’, then that is just in many respects as important as your mental health. If you can’t ‘live’ your mental health with suffer as a consequence.
 
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Mary, What do you mean against that back drop?
 
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Ok Sarah Jane

Here is your income and expenditure account.

Income

PIP £200
ESA. £500

Total £700

I am going to ignore housing benefit as I assume this will cover your rent.

Expenditure

Utilities £80 (based on my spend on a small flat)
Rates £25 (75% rates reduction on a small flat)
Phone/internet. £25
Payment to parents. £100 (laundry and food)
Restaurants £50 (Maccy d’s and KFC)
Balance £420

Total. £700

You have no car, the balance of £420 is free money, you drink, so a proportion of this money if not all may be spent on alcohol.

This is financial, the point in making is that you have no pressing financial needs.

It is my understanding that you have disengaged from the NHS. But saying that you have no pressing financial needs. You could disengage forever more.

As far as the past, your childhood, schooling, a relationship dreakdown, your early relationship with your parents, well it’s the past, it doesn’t impact on your future, it’s all shit!, in your past.

As far as your future, you are financially stable, disingaged from the NHS, doubt the police have an interest in you, the most people you engage with are your parents, from what I can gather you now principally live with them, they provide laundry and meals, there may be shit in the past, but you’re principally living with them and they are providing laundry and food for £100z

You only really engage with your parents, you only have to keep on ‘good’ terms with them, the NHS you’re disingaged from, I doubt the police care.

As far as drinking, it’s effect on you, self medicating, curing insomnia, well you have £420 a month to spend on this, the effect on you, mood swings, the effect on your family, who you principally now live with, well who know’s.

As far as your thread title ‘this is serious’, well it’s not!.

Shit in the past!, I have shit in the past!, you’re financially stable, disengaged rom the NHS,let’s face it the Police don’t care about you, it’s only your parents you engage with and you live with them, but have a flat on the side, they provide laundry and food and you eat out (Maccy d’s)

The biggest effect on your life and the relationship with your parents appears alcohol, and you have £420 a month to fuel any addiction/self medication.

In terms of your health care going forward, doctors, advocates, mental health services I’m going to leave it there, there are people on these forums that now far more about these things than me.

Shit in the past!, I know shit in the past!.
 
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It’s it the past, if you read my posts, I agree it’s in the past, I was trying to sort it out, unfortunately I lost my memory to reapeat history, ie framed, put on care plan of hell because of the police and social services for ten pounds, like I was pushed into my frustration and anger, unfortunately the authorities framed me for robbery and with my life, unfortunately I upset the police in there 3 year investigation for ten pounds because I was in a state, I have had the hell thats followed, like i said put on a care plan ie, because the police framed under the proceeds crime act, Mappa monitor me, I have disinengaged, 2.5 years ago, as I was gaining nothing.
The main problem is what my ex did to me, has happened in the past, they did psycho surgery on her for damaging property for upsetting the police; under the court of protection and I’m in the same situation, I agree I have nothing to do with no one and my money is mine, it helps to pay for taxis and pain killers.
Unfortunately when I told the social worker in 2009, what happened, she said it’s too late, as I said they pulled the lot, ie the police under proceeds of crime act, even though the police new in 2006, the truth , they just a victim, just like framed people in the past for there behavior, unfortunately I got ignored with what I saying to my family, and is why it is where is today
 
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It’s it the past, if you read my posts, I agree it’s in the past, I was trying to sort it out, unfortunately I lost my memory to reapeat history, ie framed, put on care plan of hell because of the police and social services for ten pounds, like I was pushed into my frustration and anger, unfortunately the authorities framed me for robbery and with my life, unfortunately I upset the police in there 3 year investigation for ten pounds because I was in a state, I have had the hell thats followed, like i said put on a care plan ie, because the police framed under the proceeds crime act, Mappa monitor me, I have disinengaged, 2.5 years ago, as I was gaining nothing.
The main problem is what my ex did to me, has happened in the past, they did psycho surgery on her for damaging property for upsetting the police; under the court of protection and I’m in the same situation, I agree I have nothing to do with no one and my money is mine, it helps to pay for taxis and pain killers.
Unfortunately when I told the social worker in 2009, what happened, she said it’s too late, as I said they pulled the lot, ie the police under proceeds of crime act, even though the police new in 2006, the truth , they just a victim, just like framed people in the past for there behavior, unfortunately I got ignored with what I saying to my family, and is why it is where is today
Ok, but it’s shit in the past.

Due you want to tell you my shit in the past, because believe you me, it will make your shit the past look like nothing. Absolutely nothing!.

You are financially stable, the only relationships you have to manage is with your parents, who provide board, food and lodgings for £100 per month. If the relationship breakdowns, well you have a flat, you are not dependant on them.

In relation to your mental health, I’m passing you over to anyone on this forum who is better than me, you have received a certain amount of advice, engage with them. Saying that if your mental health problems are not addressed, you’re financially in a good place, well you can roll with it.

I want the best quality of life for you Sarah Jane.

If you get knowhere with anyone else, PM me and i’ll make enquires on your behalf. So if you go knowhere from this point onwards PM me and I will take over your mental health care. But I think from this point on there are better on this forum in relation to your mental health care than me.

Take care Sarah Jane

I’m always here for you.

Mike
 
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Thank you mike for your help, the pressing matter is the psycho surgery, your in institutions the rest of your life, because outside, what I have normal, even with what I have been put through, you can not manage, death row, ie the states version of the electric chair, unfortunately they tell the public a load of bullshit, it look me a long time to sound my vowels has a child, I don’t want to go through that again. Unfortunately as I said the authorities are trying to cover up the truth, judge wouldn’t authorize it on property before 1996, so now they are using my family to cover up what they did to me, my dad does not give a shit, just like he threatened me tonight with the police, as he doesn’t care, because he knows he has caused this, I wouldn’t be at my parents right now, it’s just because of my fractured ankle, unfortunately the mental health act is to cover up torture, I new that growing up, just like my dad has nearly two grand of money, when I could never work again, unfortunately I put it in his trust, because the department and work and pensions letter, mappa made the allegations did I need the money as I was not spending it, I was saving it to buy a car, unfortunately my dad is a abuser like mappa, they both pick on the vulnerable, instead he could of claimed care allowance
 
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Thank you mike for your help, the pressing matter is the psycho surgery, your in institutions the rest of your life, because outside, what I have normal, even with what I have been put through, you can not manage, death row, ie the states version of the electric chair, unfortunately they tell the public a load of bullshit, it look me a long time to sound my vowels has a child, I don’t want to go through that again. Unfortunately as I said the authorities are trying to cover up the truth, judge wouldn’t authorize it on property before 1996, so now they are using my family to cover up what they did to me, my dad does not give a shit, just like he threatened me tonight with the police, as he doesn’t care, because he knows he has caused this, I wouldn’t be at my parents right now, it’s just because of my fractured ankle, unfortunately the mental health act is to cover up torture, I new that growing up, just like my dad has nearly two grand of money, when I could never work again, unfortunately I put it in his trust, because the department and work and pensions letter, mappa made the allegations did I need the money as I was not spending it, I was saving it to buy a car, unfortunately my dad is a abuser like mappa, they both pick on the vulnerable, instead he could of claimed care allowance
The thing is it’s all sort of shit!, how the shit that happens!.

Mischief has engaged with you, given you some practical advice, then engage with her.

As opposed to ‘how the shit! that happens’.

Try and think at a practical level.

You have a problem, a mental health problem, how do you get the best treatment for it from this point on.

You’re financially stable, there is no pressing need. You could just roll on for years, a ‘do nothing strategy’.

Engage with Mischief.

Think practically on a step by step basis. Probably difficult with your mind and all the shit! you’ve been through.

Go through Mischief post and address it. Rather than ‘how it’s all very complex’.

What is your next step, an advocate, someone you trust as Mischief said, someone independent of the health care sector who has best interest at heart, who will ensure when you meet doctors and psychiatrists there is no abuse.

What is your next practical step, to get the best medical treatment, given it appears you have disingaged from the NHS and well are probably ‘self medicating’ on alcohol.

Read Mischief post, one thing, one practical step from this point onwards, to get you to engage with the NHS and get you the best medical treatment you can get.

But don’t me, they’re all in on it, the police, the NHS, your Dad, the truth needs to be exposed.

One practical step, discuss it with Mischief.

Take care

Mike
 
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