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Parayana

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I smoke loads, I sit in front of the screen chuffing fags and drinking coffee. I smoke less when I am at my GFs as I have to go outside there.
 
Lunus

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I smoke loads, I sit in front of the screen chuffing fags and drinking coffee. I smoke less when I am at my GFs as I have to go outside there.
I had to cut out the coffee as it stimulated the brain too much and made me hyper. Best not to have caffeine after 15.00, so I’m told.
 
Parayana

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Ah Lunus, I'm totally addicted to both, I'm so sedated off meds I need caffeine to function, makes my sleep patterns erratic though - I'm often up until the early hours ganking Americans and other exotic creatures on Xbox live.
 
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bold: ok, that's positive, I'll add a bit more

I'm telling it as it is @dewey - though importantly - it's MY experience, and not one fits all. (heavy smoker for 30 years) - a few quits, but last one, I absolutely nailed it. In 2 weeks I'd actually thrown out lighters / ashtrays etc, secret stashes in case run out etc. and if I smelt smokers, it make me sick :LOL:

My advice is avoid most advice. It's shit.

'don't go to places where you normally smoke like pubs / clubs type thing' - forget this crap. Once about 3 days in, go to pubs clubs / or places where you smoke

In reality. The first day, I didn't find difficult at all. Second day, you certainly notice it, and think about it a lot. This type of thing you need to do, the things you normally do, but have something to distract you.

1st distraction is this for me. You DON'T need to smoke. There is no benfit at all, and I lasted my first 15 years without it, or ever feeling the need to do it. So this is where you need to get to.

Let's not beat around the bush, this isn't easy. I think you have to commit to about 3 days - 1 week to rid the cravings out. Nicotine doesn't sit in system for long, so addictive as it is, it's also just a few days needed.

You have to get to grips with the fact that you are addicted to a drug far more addictive than something like heroin, so you can't get cocky.

Heroin addicts who get a few months prison, and no choice but to abstain, and come out and first thing they look for.

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bit of a waffle I'm afraid as in a rush,

I'm telling you, if you go through the few days, it's gonna be rough, and if other problems at moment, I don't think you'll succeed unless absolutely sorted that you want this shit out of your body.

2 weeks of abstinence for me, and it's gone. However, you have to continue abstaining even if tempted. It's always going to be there because you've probably done it for a long time. Most have,

I wasn't bothered at all by my abstain. I liked it. I felt a lot better.

I started again, partly by the fact that I couldn't find 1, so bought a pack (more SH than temptation tbh). 1st one made me sick. but soon back on again.

eugh, so stupid. wish I could replay that night again.
Thank you for this
 
Lunus

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Ah Lunus, I'm totally addicted to both, I'm so sedated off meds I need caffeine to function, makes my sleep patterns erratic though - I'm often up until the early hours ganking Americans and other exotic creatures on Xbox live.
I completely understand. I went all day without having a cigarette and at midnight decided to smoke four. Better then over thirty I was smoking, better than the seven I’d already cut down to but in my black and white view an abject failure.
I’ll try again today. :low:
 
Parayana

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I smoke about thirty a day, noe I'm not claiming PIP I will have to cut down.
 
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I've met people who could give up heroin but couldn't give up smoking so don't beat yourself up about it Lunus.
 
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I've just gone an hour between smokes which is the best I've done in a while so that's something positive.
 
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Guys - well done! :hug: I'll be joining you shortly.

I'm weaning myself off cigarettes too but working towards July 8th as my quit date.

I'm keeping my cigarettes in a tin in the kitchen cupboard. Much of my smoking is almost unconscious because the packet and lighter are to hand. Having to walk out to the kitchen, retrieve the tin and replace it has made me far more aware of if I need a cigarette and it's reducing the amount I smoke.

I find it incredibly hard to stop and STAY a non-smoker. In the past, I've always tripped myself up a few months along the journey by persuading myself that I can just smoke ONE without rekindling the habit. Trouble is, to obtain that ONE cigarette, you have to buy a full pack...then my mental negotiations become "I'll just smoke this packet and no more."

I am a nicotine addict - smoking 'socially' or 'occasionally' is never going to be possible. The best I will ever be is a permanently abstaining smoker because I fall back into the habit so quickly.

Everybody is different, but for me, the mental preparation leading up to quitting is the most important aspect of stopping. I have to change so many behaviours associated with smoking to increase my chances of success. I've been in a committed, long term relationship with cigarettes for all of my adult life....and break ups are hard. :sorry:

I think this thread is great to support each other - particularly on tough days when a bit of encouragement here might stop you running to the newsagents to buy a packet!

This time, I'll be keeping a few loose cigarettes hidden around the house - if I AM going to have a wobble and relapse - there's no reason to buy a whole packet. I can retrieve a lone cigarette from its hiding place without falling back into patterns.

Honestly? I think its the fear of failure and disappointment when I screw up that keeps me smoking. This time, I'll accommodate my own nature and build-in a safety net.

Big hugs for you all :hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug:
 
Lunus

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Guys - well done! :hug: I'll be joining you shortly.

I'm weaning myself off cigarettes too but working towards July 8th as my quit date.

I'm keeping my cigarettes in a tin in the kitchen cupboard. Much of my smoking is almost unconscious because the packet and lighter are to hand. Having to walk out to the kitchen, retrieve the tin and replace it has made me far more aware of if I need a cigarette and it's reducing the amount I smoke.

I find it incredibly hard to stop and STAY a non-smoker. In the past, I've always tripped myself up a few months along the journey by persuading myself that I can just smoke ONE without rekindling the habit. Trouble is, to obtain that ONE cigarette, you have to buy a full pack...then my mental negotiations become "I'll just smoke this packet and no more."

I am a nicotine addict - smoking 'socially' or 'occasionally' is never going to be possible. The best I will ever be is a permanently abstaining smoker because I fall back into the habit so quickly.

Everybody is different, but for me, the mental preparation leading up to quitting is the most important aspect of stopping. I have to change so many behaviours associated with smoking to increase my chances of success. I've been in a committed, long term relationship with cigarettes for all of my adult life....and break ups are hard. :sorry:

I think this thread is great to support each other - particularly on tough days when a bit of encouragement here might stop you running to the newsagents to buy a packet!

This time, I'll be keeping a few loose cigarettes hidden around the house - if I AM going to have a wobble and relapse - there's no reason to buy a whole packet. I can retrieve a lone cigarette from its hiding place without falling back into patterns.

Honestly? I think its the fear of failure and disappointment when I screw up that keeps me smoking. This time, I'll accommodate my own nature and build-in a safety net.

Big hugs for you all :hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug:
Thank you for that it is really helpful. I think you’re spot on with the fear of failure. I smoked yesterday and I beat myself up today with frustration and anger. We’ll get there eventually.
 
Lunus

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Thank you for that it is really helpful. I think you’re spot on with the fear of failure. I smoked yesterday and I beat myself up today with frustration and anger. We’ll get there eventually.
I smoked another 5 cigarettes today. For once I’m not going to beat myself up because I’ve realised the reason. I have to do a Timeline for my Psychologist and I realise I’ve been ruminating over it so feel highly stressed. I’m going to get the f*cking thing done tomorrow and once complete I’m going to give it a real go to stop
 
Parayana

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Part of the problem with SZ is that smoking boosts some of the neurotransmitters supressed by anti-psychotics so the brains natural tendency towards homeostasis makes it smoke like a chimney. The old smoke rooms on wards were always full of people chuffing away,
 
Lunus

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Thank you for that it is really helpful. I think you’re spot on with the fear of failure. I smoked yesterday and I beat myself up today with frustration and anger. We’ll get there eventually.
Smoked my last six cigarettes. I feel like I’m now ready to stop smoking completely. Time will tell.
 
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