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Can Medication Hurts Voices?

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whispervoice

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Hi All,

I've been looking over your website, especially the blog from intervoice, reading from my ipod touch. The most important thing that I've learned is that you have to dialogue with the voices in your head. I'm Bipolar I. So, we have voices as well. A couple of years ago, I was non-medicated. I was doing okay with the voices. They even help me with the homework at College and to concentrate better. I wasn't afraid of them. I regarded as part of myself. The downside was that I couldn't help well. At that time, I didn't know that one could establish a relationship with the voices.

Now, I'm prescribed some meds for my Bipolar I, and everything has changed since then. I cannot concentrate well, the voices bother me, and I feel awkward with them. The good side is that I can sleep well.

I don't know if anyone can relate to this.

So, can meds upset the voices?
 
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willsmother

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Hi Al:confused:

Why on earth were you prescribed tablets if the voices weren't causing you no bother. It seems a little strange to me that someone has decided to medicate you when there was no need.

You certainly sound much worse off with those tablets, that's why I'm a little confused.

I hope you don't mind me asking but are you the Al who was in Borstal with my Will back in the 9's. e was on drugs there andnow he's come off them. He was the most wonderful singer until he came off the rails and now he's totally clean and works as an airline pilot.

I'm so proud. He's no divorce, no kids though, you know, he's not gay like the word gay used to mean back then in the 60#s during flower power when everyone was dancing around their teddies with flowers in their hair, though he says he's homosexual, but I do not believe him because all the girls go crazy about him. I think he's just gone the wrong way and been misled by those lads who fancy his bottom because he is such an attractive guy to both sexes.

What do you think? I've been worried half to death about his singing career because he could be famous you know. He even once met Simon Cowell, though that mf didn't even give him half a chance because he was not in the right mood that day, which wasn't fair. He was a bit cheesed off with geoff hoon who no longer lives around this neck of the woods when he found out he was going to be involved with that third runway down at heathrow where my old parents live and simon as well. So that's why he didn't pass his audition. Talk about life and ever decreasing circles.

What do you think on intervoice. I'd appreciate your expert opinion because you have all got a modicom of sense not like geoff hoon who I hate with all my heart and soul for destroying lives, our planet by buggering up our ozone layer with far too many omissions and you know what, he's got three sons as well you know. As if he hasn't got their future planned. Well it's not blooming fair, I can tell you. I just don't like that chap and there's more. He doesn't eat baconsandwiches, so there, make what you want out of that. Though I am not in no way shape or form any kind of bnp follower but it doesn't half raise their profile by stealth by doing stupid stuff not like enoch powell way back when he was a prophet and the labour government took no notice and kicked him out. :mad:

Not by for now, just getting started.

Lots of inspect and lots of big brother watching us

Will's ma

PS Hope intervoice respects my opinion and I don't get shood down in flames. tarah torah for now
 
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RainbowElf

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though he says he's homosexual, but I do not believe him because all the girls go crazy about him. I think he's just gone the wrong way and been misled by those lads who fancy his bottom because he is such an attractive guy to both sexes.
What!

That is so :mad: of you to say.

So what if the ladies liked him, that is their choice and not his. A lot of women like gay men because they are sensitive.
You blaming it on other gay men might be your way of dealing with it, but it is wrong to say such a thing.

Plenty of men like me so does that mean that I am not really a lesbian?
No. Because they are the ones with the feelings not me.

Stop been stupid about this and get your head out of the clouds.

We are born gay. Other people and certain situations do not make us gay.
Deal with it.:mad:

Elf ...
 
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whispervoice

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Hi,

Now, I am looking a way to balance everything out, the medication and the voices. Can anyone provide me with info. regarding how to do that? My life will be easier. I could do much better at University.
 
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calfellows

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whisper,
The split personality or MPD (multiple personality disorder) people refer to a MPD medical term called "INTEGRATION", where their voices reintegrate back into the main personality. Your medications may have done just that.
Cal
 
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terri

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What!

That is so :mad: of you to say.

So what if the ladies liked him, that is their choice and not his. A lot of women like gay men because they are sensitive.
You blaming it on other gay men might be your way of dealing with it, but it is wrong to say such a thing.

Plenty of men like me so does that mean that I am not really a lesbian?
No. Because they are the ones with the feelings not me.

Stop been stupid about this and get your head out of the clouds.

We are born gay. Other people and certain situations do not make us gay.
Deal with it.:mad:

Elf ...

Must say Elf I quite agree and talk about a young man being tied to his apron strings. I bet he has quite a few problems with such an interferring mother. (Hope you don't mind me saying, Willsma. Freedom of speech you know.) Why don't you leave Well alone and let him find a lovely partner and get a life, ha ha.

But just a thought, why do some women who have life long male partners, and perhaps even children, sometimes have a relationship with a female partner. I do know a woman who this happened to and she is very happy with her woman, although it did cause loads of upset at the time. I don't suppose she just changed her mind about being heterosexual at the back end of her life, though she did have a violent husband. So perhaps that was it, who knows, I never asked the devil, her husband, that is.

Also, what about medicines then? Do you think they should get 'ditched' with regard to Professor Marius Romme's new view of schizophrenia, psychosis, not being a brain disease. Surely, if we haven't got a diseased brain, we should not need tablets. That's my philosophy anyway, though I respect others viewpoint.

I wonder what Professor Romme thinks now about those tablets for 'supposed mental illness'. I'd love to know and wouldn't it be brill if he made some sort of comment on Intervoice about this subject, seeing as it's open to everyone.

All for now, take care Elf and all the rest

Terri x
 
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terri

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whisper,
The split personality or MPD (multiple personality disorder) people refer to a MPD medical term called "INTEGRATION", where their voices reintegrate back into the main personality. Your medications may have done just that.
Cal
Hi whisper

I think what Cal has said is true. You do not have to take the tablets you know. You can survivie without them and still study like I have. I am forever doing research into various subjects, particularly mental illness. Why not put tablets on the back boiler and study at your best time of day, when you are out of college. For instance, say, set your alarm clock for an hour or so before you normally get up in the morning so that you can start to study refreshed. That's what I think and then everything will be fresh for when you go over into class. What do you if you don't mind me asking?

I hope I don't sound big headed but I've read lots of Herodatus, Swedenbourg, Bible, Koran, Little Red Book, Jung Chang, Sociology, Russian Revolution, and not overmuch fiction, often during the time I was labelled 'schizophrenic' because of one mad doctor's opinion that I was. That's what he said I had, though I know it's not true, but talk about destroying my confidence!! Aint nobig deal now, but it was an absolutely enormous one at the time.

I often like to write as though I am absolutely 'barking crazy' just to both let off steam and to let psycdocs think I am as mad as a hatter, because you know what, I come off line and I feel so much better about what I get angry about.then I come off line and carry on with my life. Just my way of doing things and we are all so very different. It's almost like a kick in the teeth to the people who always get the wrong end of the stick about mental illness; so they say, "you are mental", so what, I think you are insane. may as well give them as good as you get!!! If you get my meaning ....... lol

All true about the psychic spiritual stuff, just expressed in the vocabulary of no mad woman just one who can't get the words out quickly enough to keep up with my typewriting fingers if I'm using the Queen's English and Grammar, so do excuse, everyone, my poor vocabulary in previous posts. Thankyou (Mmmmm and also :ashamed: those bad language days).

Lots of good luck for your future, Whisper

I'd love to see more posts and points of view from other people (a golden round circle has just flown past - honest injun - that has happened just as I am typing and I do not talk with forked tongue) who are members of this web site. There are so few who take part. Come on everyone, let's see what you all think. Accuse me of being barking if you want, or even schizoid, I don't mind or even a pommy barstool, whatever you want. Just so long as you don't get chucked off, though I don't think you would.

Especially what you think about those golden balls of light which float past here.

Terri x
 
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whispervoice

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Thanks terri,

I'm still deciding whether or not to put aside the meds. I'm afraid I'll go crazy again. I must admit it was never that good on my mind. I sometimes had my weird thoughts. I think after I start abusing myself. The voices went crazy, and started changing. By the way, how do you know which voice is your voice? Let's say everyday person has a voice. How do you differentiate that one from the other voices.
 
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RebeccaTacosaGray

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FIGHT & WIN.

This is an message I sent to others, and I know it will help those who have tried every avenue and have not been able to cope. I view the voices as a Mortal Veil Breach, and in such a situation, you must FIGHT. Take care, and I hope my advice helps you...

Rebecca Tacosa Gray, FIGHT. A COALITION AGAINST EVIL

I wrote the following...it is part of my book "The Sword of Truth," which you can find in full on my website http://michapedia.wetpaint.com/. I want to let you know how wonderful it is that you're so strong already. It really takes strength and a will to face the beings down who are invading your space and hurting your daily life. What I can tell you, having been through very heavy attack, is that walking through them is the very best thing you can do, as well as incarcerating them and throwing them out. Once you've done so, never look back. In regards to your energy, please see my paragraph below on binding and incarcerating the energy. If you focus on the personality of the being you're trying to incarcerate and do as I've said, you can get rid of it. I hope the following helps you, and please go to my website if you want to know more.I've been through immense experiences, so if you have direct questions just write me at [email protected]. It's very easy to put these beings down, once they know you know your in direct control. Don't mess with them. Just put them down, unceremoniously and get rid of them. Take care, and my deepest respect and regards...Rebecca Tacosa Gray

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First of all, there is NO reason to be afraid. NONE AT ALL. Realize that these being who are affecting your space are just energy, and they need to be put down, plain and simple. You must understand that these particular being depend upon your fear, it feeds them. What you need to understand is that you need to get up and WALK RIGHT THROUGH THEM. You must face them, know that you're not afraid of them, and tell them to GET LOST. You mentioned being frightened and ending up sleeping on the couch. Don't be. The moment you stop being frightened, and face them as a strong, knowing Warrior, something changes in you. You will throw beings out naturally, face them down without fear, and never regret that you stood up for yourself. Think of it this way: you're already fighting. Why not stand up and FIGHT. And FIGHT. They might resist, but FIGHT. Eventually they'll get lost or you'll put them down and lock them out. Also, remember that when you feel things like fear, they're just bits of energy they've placed around that elicit feelings. Walk right through it and ignore it. The more you do so, the less it will happen, and this is truth. Ignore the banging, the clanging, the knocking. Understand, as Robert has shown on his site, that we live in a Quantum Zero Point Energy Field. What they're doing is just a bit of energy. Ignore it. Once you get rid of them, it will disappear. And you will get rid of them. And to do that, you must have NO FEAR. I cannot explain to you what happens when you finally, but finally, face a being who is a negative entity and face them down. It confirms who you are, it tells them that you will not compromise your space or your life, and you retain everything that you are while throwing them down. You need to understand how strong you are, both of you. It is the most important issue. YOU NEED TO FIND THE WARRIOR IN YOU. This is a truth, plain and simple. What you do not understand is that you are your own greatest strength. I know you've been finding assistance from others, and that is wonderful. However, you must understand that you have the ability to put these beings down yourself, lock, stock and barrel. First of all, find a photgraph, something that inspires the Warrior in you. I, myself, associate with the painting "Stalking" by Michael Parkes (http://www.art.com/asp/sp-asp/_/pd--102 ... 1257F641F9) And you must find a role model. I have many. Michael (Love, strength, the will to continue on and fight, skill, true understanding of human character), True Jesus (Quiet strength, Connection to Universal Mind, True love, true understanding of human character), True God (True God holds Truth, Justice, Beauty, Love, Charity, Kindness, and the ability to see, truly see all, truly see you, truly see what needs to be seen), and I also find inspiration from many films like House of Flying Daggers and, violent though it is, Kill Bill, as it shows one being's will to survive. However, YOU NEED TO CRAFT YOURSELF. These role models are showing you what speaks to you, the strengths in yourself, and what you are, what you truly are, IS YOUR OWN. And it happens like this: you look at yourself. You stand up. You face the beings in question. And you FIGHT. You put them down. Think of it like this. You're already fighting. NOW FIGHT. BECOME A WARRIOR AND FIGHT. PUT THEM DOWN. I know that what I just said sounds strong, but that is exactly what it takes. Strength. In you.

Also, you must understand how important your God really is. Your God, the one you spoke of, stands beside you, protects you and supports you. Your God stands straight across from you in respect, and knows who you are, truly. Understand that once you have put your beings down, your God has the mechanism to shut the door, lock it and throw away the key. And this is truth. Once you have read this, you will have made your God aware that you know that he can make sure that once you shut these beings down, that he must do what must be done. Lock the door, and let those two beings descend to incarceration, where they belong. Also, understand that Michael is also there for you. One thing I know about Michael, and it's the same thing I know about myself, that a strength, quiet or strong, is required to fight evil. Michael's manner of fighting is inviolately beautiful, and his quiet resolve, his attention to detail, and his attention to direct fact are essential and true. You must face evil and put it down. His love, his way of fighting, his beauty, his way of seeing, invaluable, timeless. True Jesus is another to pull to your side. I'll tell you now that I'm asking that you think of him in a different way, separate from the Catholic Faith. Jesus has an inviolate understanding of human nature, and a quiet strength, and knows how to put evil down and incarcerate it permanently. In fact, both Michael and Jesus can do so. Rebecca Tacosa Gray, gave you this advice. But Michael is part of me, he holds me, and I love him. So understand this: You cannot falter. You cannot give up, ever. I've learned this inviolately by fighting. And I want you to Fight. Truly fight.

As for putting them physically down, try binding them. What you must do is find something physical, solid, heavy. Rocks are wonderful, and if you can use something that is known for incarcerating negative energy, like onyx. Then you must focus on the personality of the being in question, and think of the being as a quantum object, it's entire being a solid, a small mass of energy (like a collection of tightly massed atoms, or even better, think of it as a physical being, like you or I.) Then take that energy, that being, and think of it as part of the physical object, as if the physical object is grabbing the being and holding it like a vise. Then bind it with what I call a Catholic Bind, which is extremely powerful. Once the being is in a vise, you bind it by thinking of a million strings or a cement, a visceral cement, or, truer, as if you were actually binding someone to something, infused with intense energy, that of the Catholic Chuch. This is not the "pray" and bind type of energy, it is, "You are bound and you will never leave, and that is the will of the Catholic Faith, inviolate, and cannot be broken." IT IS STRONG. THIS BINDING IS STRONG. THE CATHOLIC FAITH IS STRONG. And when you bind, it must have that energy, the inviolate knowledge that the negative being is stuck, bound in that stone, forever. If you're not Catholic, just KNOW that it's bound. And it must have the same intent, the same inviolate energy. Use only these two methods. The Catholic Method and True Intent. Both will work, inviolately. Understand that what you are seeing is true quantum binding of an actual energy being. For example, you could have bound the being that you saw dancing to a garbage can, and walked right on and said "GET LOST." as you left it behind. And that is exactly what you need to do. Face it and say "GET LOST." Shove it aside and walk on. Once you have bound the being, you can take care of residual energy by binding it into salt, or using incense, singing bowls, clapping, or Tibetan Gongs, which work beautifully. As a side note, as has been seen by Robert's advice, salt is an inviolate substance that holds evil, permanently. I've used it over and over again and it is a true force for battle. And salt baths, as Robert has said, as well, break the energy use around your body of negative entities.

If you have time, go to my website and become a member. (Http://michapedia.wetpaint.com) Also add your name to the FIGHT. MEMBER LIST. (http://michapedia.wetpaint.com/page/FIGHT.+MEMBER+LIST). And don't read more than you have to about evil. These beings use what you know to operate, so the more you limit them spiritually, the better off you are What you must focus on is putting them down, lock stock and barrel. And most of all, look to yourself. Fight, and let me know how it's going. I want you to win. To put them down. Face them tonight and know, in yourself, how strong you are. I mean it. There is no middle ground. You stand, they fall. And you must feel that exact resolve in yourself.

My Deepest Respects and Regards,
Rebecca Tacosa Gray
Owner & Founder, FIGHT. A COALITION AGAINST EVIL
 
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idonothearvoices

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Only the individual can decide if medication works for them or not, if medication works it works, if not it does not. I have heard of medication working, not working, working somewhat.

People describe medication getting rid of the voices or as keeping voices out on the edge of a person’s existence.

Allowing the person to reach their own wise voice personal spirit of self, with less effort. It is at this stage people should allow themselves to experience themselves enjoying being them.

Also people who do not take medication do also experience this lessening effect or voices out on the peripheral. So trust yourself to examine is medication working for you or not. One thing is for certain medication on its own in my opinion is off limited value.
 
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