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Buddhism and Pagan Mysticism.

Parayana

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So as many of you know I've been practicing Buddhist meditation for around eight and a half years but long before I cracked I was really into H
shamanism, Pagan Mysticism and had a bit more than a casual interest in Wicca. I've experienced some very calm and peaceful states and had some profound moments of insight into the Buddhist path. But lately I feel myself drawn back to Paganism and Wicca particularly due to the state of mother Earth with climate change. I know from Buddhism that we are all connected to everything else in the Universe through an interdependent mutually supporting web of life.

The other night I pulled out an old Pentagram pendant and placed it around my neck and immediatley a sense of rightness and positive energy shot through me the moment I closed the clasp. I've not given up on Buddhism, I don't see the two as mutually exclusive. I know Jews and Christians who use Buddhist techniques and say it makes them a better Jew or Christian and Leonrad Cohen when he spent seven years still kept to some of his Jewish traditions.

I just wondered what other Buddhists or Pagans (or those of other faiths) thought. I'd be intersted in hearing Lady @calypso's opinion with her Pagan roots and use of mindfulness techniques to help her mental health.
 
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I get the Buddhism but not the witchcraft

maybe I have a different image of it than you do
mother earth yes
but casting spells ?

I think that is a lower form of spirituality
based on fear
 
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When the Buddha faced Mara on the night of his enlightenment, the Buddha beat him with his compassion, but Mara had one last trick up his sleeve, he asked the Buddha who was he to claim this attainment, the Buddha touched the Earth and invoked the Mother Goddess who manifested and bore witness to the deeds he had done as he had walked the path through many lives on this green earth. It's not necessarily about casting spells @Zoe1, it's more about respect for this earth who is mother to us all. I'm not really into magic these days that's just a form of desire which creates suffering. Anyway I was just noodling really.
 
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Apart from labels @Parayana, as above - so below tends to resonate with me. What I 'notice' is usually related to where I am on the scale of things. (Isn't 'thing' a versatile word? lol)

Our brain's filters usually only allow information relevant to our present, depending of course on our needs, will and focus. My higher self might 'help' me by forcing me to notice things (there's that word again) that challenge me to look within. So, if I notice how Mother Earth's polluted, struggling, water deprived etc, then it's fair to say that's what's going on in my body and mind.

We can't change the whole world, but we can change it one action, one thought and one breath at a time. A pebble in a pond, flicker of light in darkness or a thread on a forum. :)

If using occult or religious practices with 'intent' helps you get there, I'm all for it! And with your pentagram? The feeling you mentioned would be more than enough to prompt me to begin looking as well.
 
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thats a beautiful post Liz

A pebble in a pond, flicker of light in darkness or a thread on a forum
yes I see what you guys are getting at
something like Druid-ism ? that I do get

and the Extinction Rebellion thing
is very beautiful and is about so much more than climate change
 
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somehow ive linked up this discussion to the extinction rebellion movement

it looks like so much more than just climate change
I think its also about surveillance, the internet, the robots

they want to connect with each other , old School
glue their hands to the pavement
and get arrested

just to feel some contact with the earth ...
 
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@Zoe1, It was Extinction rebellion that started me thinking this ay so you made the same link I did. :).
 
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n yeah I see where you are coming from ! 😄
 
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So as many of you know I've been practicing Buddhist meditation for around eight and a half years but long before I cracked I was really into H
shamanism, Pagan Mysticism and had a bit more than a casual interest in Wicca. I've experienced some very calm and peaceful states and had some profound moments of insight into the Buddhist path. But lately I feel myself drawn back to Paganism and Wicca particularly due to the state of mother Earth with climate change. I know from Buddhism that we are all connected to everything else in the Universe through an interdependent mutually supporting web of life.

The other night I pulled out an old Pentagram pendant and placed it around my neck and immediatley a sense of rightness and positive energy shot through me the moment I closed the clasp. I've not given up on Buddhism, I don't see the two as mutually exclusive. I know Jews and Christians who use Buddhist techniques and say it makes them a better Jew or Christian and Leonrad Cohen when he spent seven years still kept to some of his Jewish traditions.

I just wondered what other Buddhists or Pagans (or those of other faiths) thought. I'd be intersted in hearing Lady @calypso's opinion with her Pagan roots and use of mindfulness techniques to help her mental health.
I think about our religious beliefs do not develop in isolation. When Christianity came to Britain it's proponents borrowed elements of the native religion - Paganism. Now we have these pagan ideas incorporated so deep that we forget that there was ever a debt owed to the Pagan religion.

Even when there isn't that physical, man-made melding of different religious teachings we still see similarities in beliefs between different religions. We consider Judaism and Christianity to be two distinct religions (and they are) however they both derive from the Abrahamic tradition.

Therefore, I don't see a big issue with incorporating similar teachings from different religions. Unless of course you believe that there is only one God, and it is a sin to worship multiple deities, then there's an obvious contradiction if one was to follow Hindu teachings where the idea of multiple gods is fundamental.

We have a unique situation whereby the Earth is artificially being altered by human activity. But the Earth is not the thing that is in danger of being destroyed. The planet will survive, however the flora and fauna that inhabit this Earth cannot survive if the balance that allows us to live and flourish is thrown off. Therefore, whatever the religious traditions which help us reform our connection to the Earth should be embraced.
 
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I think its quite possible
to embrace multiple deities
as part of a one God !

all just different aspects
with different powers

not at odds with each other usually

as if God has different alters
 
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@Zoe1, that's how the Hindu school of Advaita Vedanta views the subject.
 
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I am a Wiccan and it is not negative at all, but does teach that there is dark and light within us all. And yes Zoe, we do cast spells! But most of all we are a Nature religion as you say and we live as holistic lives as we can. I do believe that a small group of people can change the world - look at Greta Thunberg - and we should 'work' spiritually for the betterment of the world in which we live.

As has been said already, Mother Nature will survive but we might not and that its a matter of our own survival that we take on board the warnings. Wicca for me is a beautiful religion which does not demand 'faith' but rather says that you will experience the changes within you and they will always be positive even if sometimes the lessons we learn might hurt us temporarily whilst we attune to them.
 
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Calypso that sounds like white witchcraft

is it like druidism ?

sorry if I offended you
 
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