Biggest breakthrough I've ever experienced with the voices I hear!!!

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Hi Folks,

I've been hearing voices now for about 8 years and like many people my experience of voices is that they have been very threatening and negative with lots of threats to either hurt me / kill me or someone in my family or damage something of mine, car house etc.

With voices constantly saying such things then I have been thinking about them negatively and doing my best to try and ignore them etc. I do not take any medication for them due to reading so many reports that it does in so many cases make people worse and doesn't actually remove the voices either.

Anyway, just a few weeks ago I thought to myself, maybe I'm not looking at these voices correctly. I thought about the threats they make, like for example to kill me or my family, none of the thousands over the last 8 years have ever been done either by the way. Those threats in itself are quite obviously very negative! (Negative Energy). However, the fact I'm still here is quite simply one of two things. Either the voices don't have the ability to kill me / carry the threat out (Which is my opinion) or after making the threat they then have let me off (which is the voices opinion obviously because they wouldn't want to admit not being able to do anything).

So sticking with the opinion of the voices being able to carry out the threats (Which they insist) then letting someone off is a positive thing to do (Positive Energy) and forgiveness is actually loving energy. I pointed this out to the voices and thanked them for their positivity and love (Especially for all 8 years now). The fact a threat was made however they haven't carried the threat out is because they have seen the error or their ways and let me off / forgive me. Well everyone makes mistakes and so because they have forgive me then I forgive them also fully and that means the threat actually ends up in a happy positive ending. You obviously need to genuinely forgive the voices also otherwise you end up with still having a bad / negative feeling towards the voices which is no good for you.

They weren't very happy with my observation at first however because it can't be argued with and they won't admit to not being able to do the threats because then that gives all their "potential" power away due to self admitting they can't do anything and make them look even more silly to make new threats after admitting they can't do anything!They did for a moment try to argue and say that making threats is negative and letting someone off threat is also negative to which I just laughed and even one of the more intelligent of the voices told the voice trying to argue that point that they were making themselves look silly.

So to look at the whole situation and analyse the whole scenario of being threatened to let off then the outcome is actually positive and loving from them even though it starts in the form of negative threats. So it just goes to show if you take a different view of the same situation, try to stand back and analyse it as if you were an outsider looking in then not only has it changed my belief to the voices have been positive from the start but also now like I say the threats have dropped 95% and the occasional threat that does get said I thank them in advance for their positivity. I generally get the reply that "No, we're really going to kill you tonight" to which I reply that "if they are going to let me off this "Really" kill me tonight" then when I'm still here tomorrow it must mean that they love me unconditionally! By thanking them at the time of the threat for their positivity and love it's easier to deal with I think otherwise the next day I'd have to try and remember to thank them for the let off / forgiveness! If they really insist it's definitely going to happen then I say their love for me must be greater and the more they protest they will carry out their threat then the let off / forgiveness which follows must also be that much greater. Kinda dig a hole for themselves there.

Happily over the following days each time I was threatened - for example the voices say they were going to kill me, I actually asked when? which normally gets an answer of tonight when sleeping etc. I then said "well in advance then if I'm still here tomorrow then it must and can only mean they've let me off / forgave me which is a positive thing for them to do" and thanked them in advance for their positivity.

Occasionally I would get the reply that they've just delayed killing me by a day but it was still going to happen. I pointed out the positivity of this because whatever way you look at it then it's positive to give me one more day rather than of carried out their threat the night before. I'd again at that point thank them for the positive let off / forgiveness they were also going to give me later that night by letting me off again.

Well, within days the number of threats I received dropped by 95% and because threats was the large part of their conversation then likewise the chattering in my head has dropped considerably! It's actually funny sometimes now when I hear one voice about to threaten me then another one jumps in and tells them not to threaten me because it will just end up with me not scared and thanking them for their positivity when the threat never happens.

I wanted to share this success story and maybe at least hope that anyone reading this may take a minute to review their own situation with their voices. If like me your voices have been negative and threatening and just like mine nothing ever happened then maybe consider how you perceive the voices. Mine clearly wanted to be seen as bad / negative and make me scared / frightened and now I'm pointing out they have a positive loving side and every threat that comes my way I will interpret it as positive and loving because I know for sure it isn't going to happen and send positive loving energy back to them.

I'm going to wrap this up here. However if anyone else has ever came to a similar conclusion, had a similar success etc or got any comments then please reply.

Wishing everyone success with dealing with their voices. Be strong, be positive, point out the obvious if need be and never fear them.

Best Wishes
Phil
 
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Your post was an inspiration to me. I also used to have very negative voices all the time, but somehow when I read the books Hearing Voices: A Common Human Experience, and Living With Voices, I developed a whole new way of thinking about the voices and they gradually became more positive than negative. Now, I sometimes hear negative voices but usually only when I am very stressed out or things are going badly. Most of the time they are positive or neutral now.
 
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Thanks for your compliment and comments and I’m very glad you have turned the negative to positives, well done to you also!

Took me ages to write the post however even if it only ends up helping someone a very small amount by maybe giving ideas then it was worth every second!

I’ve been at the start like most people where I was pretty much frightened of my own shadow because of the threats. Would love to now be able to help those that are currently going through what I was!
 
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Hi and welcome to the MHF! Hopeful helping.

See positivity pays off.

Being positive is a strategy that works.

Real or imaginery, you beat the voices threats and live by being positive.

You didn't let the negative impacts of the voices kill you by letting your guard down and killing yourself.

You proved the voices wrong.

The voices cannot touch you. The voices can tempt you, but they cannot make you do anything you don't want to do; unless you let the voices get the best of you. You didn't.

The voices gave up and you didn't. Shoot the voices had no choice but to. Those voices are BS lies that makes you become dreadfully unstable untill you learn how to overcome pressure.

Just like love conquers all so does positiveness.

I'm proud of your recovering.

Continue to stay optimistic even when the pessimist is in the midst.

GL GB BS!
 
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Hi Rookieatbest,

Thanks for you very kind words. I also agree 100% with what you have said!

Luckily for us we know the voices can’t hurt you in anyway no matter what they are. As you correctly say their only way is to try and convince you that you are worthless and no good to get you to go and hurt / kill yourself. Thankfully I was luckily to know that from early in to the voices so I didn’t ever scare of their millions of threats and none ever happened. Likewise the only things they ever spoke if it wasn’t a threat was something to try and make me feel bad about myself so that also became obvious very quickly!

Anyway thanks again for your post and have an amazing weekend!
 
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My voices are more destructive than yours. They know how to drive me mad.
 
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Hi Albie , thanks for your reply to the post.

Without knowing one another’s voice history it’s not easy to make a judgement on who’s we’re the most destructive etc.

I’ve also had some very rough times over the last 8 years with constant threats, lies and negativity both towards me, my family and my property. None of which ever happened by the way!

What has just worked for me isn’t going to help everyone I know, however I wanted to share a success story and hope that it could possibly help someone.

Would you like to explain more about your voices being so destructive? Then myself or other readers might be able to make some suggestions.

Best wishes
Phil
 
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It is a great win/win situation. These allowing the voices to exist and accept what they say to you (win for them) yet realize that every day is a gift. The Samurai would meditate every day about their mortality. Their death. It is in this way they were able to not only accept the inevitable truth that death could come any day to anyone living but, more importantly, be grateful for life. I really cannot thank you enough for sharing your epiphany with anyone here, now and in the future.
 
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Thanks for your post.

I’m no expert on voices by no means and don’t even work in the medical profession.

What unites all voice hearers though is only when you have or have had voices in your head can you truly understand what others are going through. Everyone’s experience will always be slightly different however we as voice heaters understand how annoying and frustrating they it can be and therefore we should share our successes with others. What has helped one person might not help another however there’s no harm trying.

I still hear mine occasionally however they are very feint now and this has been done without medication.

Again I’m no expert however if anyone wants to pick my brains on how I dealt with them then I’d gladly try to help and never want any money etc for helping.

My biggest urge to anyone who has negative and threatening voices is
1: Ignore them!!! Can’t emphasise this enough. Try your hardest to ignore them, I know it isn’t easy and I still sometimes find myself replying. However the more you ignore them the better off you’ll be.
2: Don’t be scared or afraid no matter what they say!
3: I promise you every threat made by voices will never happen unless by pure co-incidence whereby whatever happened would of anyway and it was nothing to do with the voices however the voices WILL try to convince you it was them to give themselves an existence and try to convince you they have powers they don’t!

Well folks, stay positive, you can and will overcome the voices even though at times it may seem impossible! Also, the toughest challenges once we overcome them give us the greatest sense of achievement!

Best wishes to all.
 
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Hi Folks,

I've been hearing voices now for about 8 years and like many people my experience of voices is that they have been very threatening and negative with lots of threats to either hurt me / kill me or someone in my family or damage something of mine, car house etc.

With voices constantly saying such things then I have been thinking about them negatively and doing my best to try and ignore them etc. I do not take any medication for them due to reading so many reports that it does in so many cases make people worse and doesn't actually remove the voices either.

Anyway, just a few weeks ago I thought to myself, maybe I'm not looking at these voices correctly. I thought about the threats they make, like for example to kill me or my family, none of the thousands over the last 8 years have ever been done either by the way. Those threats in itself are quite obviously very negative! (Negative Energy). However, the fact I'm still here is quite simply one of two things. Either the voices don't have the ability to kill me / carry the threat out (Which is my opinion) or after making the threat they then have let me off (which is the voices opinion obviously because they wouldn't want to admit not being able to do anything).

So sticking with the opinion of the voices being able to carry out the threats (Which they insist) then letting someone off is a positive thing to do (Positive Energy) and forgiveness is actually loving energy. I pointed this out to the voices and thanked them for their positivity and love (Especially for all 8 years now). The fact a threat was made however they haven't carried the threat out is because they have seen the error or their ways and let me off / forgive me. Well everyone makes mistakes and so because they have forgive me then I forgive them also fully and that means the threat actually ends up in a happy positive ending. You obviously need to genuinely forgive the voices also otherwise you end up with still having a bad / negative feeling towards the voices which is no good for you.

They weren't very happy with my observation at first however because it can't be argued with and they won't admit to not being able to do the threats because then that gives all their "potential" power away due to self admitting they can't do anything and make them look even more silly to make new threats after admitting they can't do anything!They did for a moment try to argue and say that making threats is negative and letting someone off threat is also negative to which I just laughed and even one of the more intelligent of the voices told the voice trying to argue that point that they were making themselves look silly.

So to look at the whole situation and analyse the whole scenario of being threatened to let off then the outcome is actually positive and loving from them even though it starts in the form of negative threats. So it just goes to show if you take a different view of the same situation, try to stand back and analyse it as if you were an outsider looking in then not only has it changed my belief to the voices have been positive from the start but also now like I say the threats have dropped 95% and the occasional threat that does get said I thank them in advance for their positivity. I generally get the reply that "No, we're really going to kill you tonight" to which I reply that "if they are going to let me off this "Really" kill me tonight" then when I'm still here tomorrow it must mean that they love me unconditionally! By thanking them at the time of the threat for their positivity and love it's easier to deal with I think otherwise the next day I'd have to try and remember to thank them for the let off / forgiveness! If they really insist it's definitely going to happen then I say their love for me must be greater and the more they protest they will carry out their threat then the let off / forgiveness which follows must also be that much greater. Kinda dig a hole for themselves there.

Happily over the following days each time I was threatened - for example the voices say they were going to kill me, I actually asked when? which normally gets an answer of tonight when sleeping etc. I then said "well in advance then if I'm still here tomorrow then it must and can only mean they've let me off / forgave me which is a positive thing for them to do" and thanked them in advance for their positivity.

Occasionally I would get the reply that they've just delayed killing me by a day but it was still going to happen. I pointed out the positivity of this because whatever way you look at it then it's positive to give me one more day rather than of carried out their threat the night before. I'd again at that point thank them for the positive let off / forgiveness they were also going to give me later that night by letting me off again.

Well, within days the number of threats I received dropped by 95% and because threats was the large part of their conversation then likewise the chattering in my head has dropped considerably! It's actually funny sometimes now when I hear one voice about to threaten me then another one jumps in and tells them not to threaten me because it will just end up with me not scared and thanking them for their positivity when the threat never happens.

I wanted to share this success story and maybe at least hope that anyone reading this may take a minute to review their own situation with their voices. If like me your voices have been negative and threatening and just like mine nothing ever happened then maybe consider how you perceive the voices. Mine clearly wanted to be seen as bad / negative and make me scared / frightened and now I'm pointing out they have a positive loving side and every threat that comes my way I will interpret it as positive and loving because I know for sure it isn't going to happen and send positive loving energy back to them.

I'm going to wrap this up here. However if anyone else has ever came to a similar conclusion, had a similar success etc or got any comments then please reply.

Wishing everyone success with dealing with their voices. Be strong, be positive, point out the obvious if need be and never fear them.

Best Wishes
Phil
Yeah you’re right on the dot. Mine wanted to kill me until I told them that I wasn’t afraid of dying since all that would await was heaven. They then turned to suing me, my friends and family for any wrongdoings and they claimed to be using some new technology to get into my head. I researched it and found tech that can do it but I soon realized that my little siblings would hear any frequencies more clearly than I could, so I was finally able to rule out that they were real people. Now they just nag all day but they actually give me peace from time to time.

I agree 100% with the negative/positive energy concept. I’ve began to change my attitude towards them from being annoyed to just talking about problems with them and they’ve begun to offer some nice insight on them. They continue their charade otherwise, but they’ve definitely changed and become a lot more manageable.
 
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Yeah you’re right on the dot. Mine wanted to kill me until I told them that I wasn’t afraid of dying since all that would await was heaven. They then turned to suing me, my friends and family for any wrongdoings and they claimed to be using some new technology to get into my head. I researched it and found tech that can do it but I soon realized that my little siblings would hear any frequencies more clearly than I could, so I was finally able to rule out that they were real people. Now they just nag all day but they actually give me peace from time to time.

I agree 100% with the negative/positive energy concept. I’ve began to change my attitude towards them from being annoyed to just talking about problems with them and they’ve begun to offer some nice insight on them. They continue their charade otherwise, but they’ve definitely changed and become a lot more manageable.
Thanks for posting and very happy to read Someone else’s successes! I certainly wish I had read posts on these forums much sooner than I did.
 
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At some point in my life I have been very strong and I have become very alone and relying only on me.
I made it so that I accepted everything and would forgive on anything and that my motivation to not get affected was 100% total, accepting to handle every situation like it's a required on me and that I would act the way a warrior would (instead of kidding the situation) and face everything.

I have trained me to handle and accept everything. I would (instead of complaining) call on their smartness, stronger, ability of clairvoyance, would point out love and true self-less intelligence, try to recall (as much as I can get akeen to it due to my own history and affective difficulty) on mercy and forgiveness and positivity.

I think I found inner peace or whatever it's called, i find myself as being in a war and i start to handle it, but yet my brothers and sisters you have to understand if I do my part i keep hearing negative shit and unworth and undeserved evilness, I mostly get the guilt and the feeling i deserve it totally out of me (as much as I success to focus on something I grant to be true : love, kindness, hope.) and I still find myself in a situation that seems to be unable to evolve.

I grant for totally acquired that anyone harming me and stealing me some of my energy, will quickly and probably very quickly find himself in a very bad situation where he won't evolve anymore while I would get away of his sick influence. So I keep trying to stay strong and recalling that everything will evolve and truth want to get known and listened to and that evil only has a time to manifest but cannot make itself to eternity. I live in some kind of an hell which I own only but my patience and a bit of a wisdom. That's my side.
 
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Congrats on your success! I wish I could say the same....

I have been trying all kinds of techniques to reduce the voice in my head. The most recent one was based on what my psychotherapist told me. She said my voice might be me developing a conscience. So I decided that instead of getting angry at my voices and fighting with them I would try to listen to them (of course not taking every suggestion seriously though - they do have some pretty bad suggestions at times) and see if the reason they were occurring was because my behavior was at odds with my conscience. I told the voice I would try to cooperate and work with him. That worked for about one day, then he returned to being hopelessly hostile and ignorant.

I'm be looking for new solutions

I hope for the best for all of you voice hearers out there. I hope you are doing better than I am currently.

Cat
 
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If you want silence, I would suggest sitting in a quiet room, and just listen and connect to what is going on in the room only. Purely out of interest, how would you describe your state of mind when these voices are going on :hug:
 
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If you want silence, I would suggest sitting in a quiet room, and just listen and connect to what is going on in the room only. Purely out of interest, how would you describe your state of mind when these voices are going on :hug:
My state of mind varies from day to day. Sometimes I feel positive and don't feel like the voice affects my quality of life too much. I am then able to either ignore what he is saying completely and just let him rant on, engage in some distracting activity that drowns him out (like studying or talking to other people), or engage selectively with it and take whatever there is that is useful and leave the rest alone. Other times my state of mind can be really negative. I then feel very angry (like internally in a fit of rage) at my condition, or feel hopelessly lost and depressed (especially when the voice is repeating statements like "shut the fuck up" every time I have an explicit thought (in my own voice). Today the voice is fairly inactive, I only hear a statement here and there. I hope it doesn't get worse as the day goes on...
 
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Out of curiosity, do you find yourself actively listening for the voice, or does it just intrude...
 
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Another question (hope you don't mind me asking), would be do you find your mind working over time when the voice intrudes, e.g. you are stressed/anxious etc...
 
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