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Bias in Psychiatric Diagnosis: Concerns about DSM-V

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Mission: To provide information for people (including but not limited to professionals and journalists) about biases and other problems in psychiatric diagnosis, an especially important goal in light of the American Psychiatric Association's preparation for the 2013 publication of the next edition of the psychiatric diagnostic manual.
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From the AWP Implementation Collective, January 2011:
AWP has serious concerns about the kinds of bias and harm that pervade the enterprise of psychiatric diagnosis. We encourage people to utilize the resources provided here to speak out against politically motivated diagnostic categories that systematically disempower individuals, families, and communities.

http://awpsych.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=102&Itemid=126
 
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" politically motivated diagnostic categories" bloody hell, that's a mouth full:D
 
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As far as i am concerned all scientologists are anti psychiatry but not all those who are anti/vehemently critical of psychiatry are scientologists.
 
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I haven't taken a good look at the site you linked firemonkee but bloody hell Parental Alienation Syndrome? There making this shit up as they go along.
 
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I haven't taken a good look at the site you linked firemonkee but bloody hell Parental Alienation Syndrome? There making this shit up as they go along.
A lot of the DSM is all about making shit up as they go along.

My 'favorite' diagnosis is ''Oppositional Defiant Disorder''.

It's a diagnosis given to naughty children. Children will usually be medicated after receiving this diagnosis. Often with amphetamines (ritalin etc) or anti-psychotics (risperadone is the drug of choice for children in the U.S).
 
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For god's sake, lets drop the scientology thing. I wrote at least twice that no-one thought that. And as far as I can see, no-one is saying don't express views that the psychiatric mindset is wrong in your opinions in many cases. . I have also many times mentioned the meds I am on and said that I like them at the moment, and no-one has suggested that \I should not feel like this.

Can we all move on and not start all that pain again. Lets just heal and discuss what the OP here started with , which is about the DSM. I would be interested in the views on that. I am not clear where the political bias comes from, unless its the drug companies wanting to push the boundaries more. I do think most pdocs are actually trying to help people, and my pdoc does not hold much truck with the DSM anyway, and told me that British pdocs tend to not use it at all. May I suggest no-one uses the words anti psychiatry or pro psychiatry in the discussion .......................???
 
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I also agree with Oppositional Defiance syndrome being the biggest load of shit around. My daughter would have had to be drugged to the gunnels if I had taken her to an American pdoc. She defied me and pushed the boundaries every single bloody day! I called it stubborn.
 
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I wrote at least twice that no-one thought that
I know what I read from another poster. It was very clear what that poster thought. IMO.

''Oppositional Defiance Disorder'' is a load of shit, and shows the dangerous sort of direction things are going in.

It's just another excuse to drug up children. It's fucked. It troubles me greatly. :unsure:
 
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Hi, can I come in with some info? My erstwhile T is a consultant to the DSM Review committee, and he was saying that lots of the new DSM ( it is still not confirmed ) has come about because there has been more of an international input this time (hence his involvement) and that countries like Russia, the Balkans, Africa etc have made very strong representation for things to be certain ways. (So yes, political ramifications this time that go wider than the USA.)
I have written more about this in the PD section on the new BPD classifications.
Any one who does not realise that the DSM is about the politics of social control and chemical big business and much less about people is sadly misguided, IMO.
 
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Aren't there natural checks and balances in society? Take the notw saga, the public mob finally withdrew it's support and they were compelled to act. Or do you envisage a psychiatric utopia where everybody is diagnosed with some type of syndrome?
 
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My utopia would be where people are treated as people on an individual basis, in partnership with a 'wise one' of their choosing and in a wholistic manner, taking into account the totality of their situation and ALL of their needs, and not choosing a particular dx ( unless they wanted too).
The DSM can go sing for all I care. (Personally, I am engaging with the topic because it affects so many of us, and not always for the better).
 
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If some of my views are then so what!!!???

Why all this labelling & polarity argument?


I personally think that such terms are very daft; for a number of complex reasons.
 
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Seriously the anti-psychiatry hysteria on this forum is amazing. Now psychiatry is some well oiled machine in cohorts with the government and big pharma and is an agent of social control....give me a break!.

Look at the reality on the ground, there is zero investment across the uk in mental health. People are constantly coming on forums like these to say that there loved one is ranting and raving and digging holes in the walls for devices but they can't get them help.

And my own experience of waiting six years to get diagnosed from the initial breakdown.I had to move 300 miles to get diagnosed.

The reality is, its difficult to get help and treatment and mh services are completely run down and under funded.:drool:
 
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For whatever the reason, we know the MH is the Cinderella of the services, always will be. That does not excuse offering virtually one method of therapy ( CBT) and one model of understanding the process (psychiatry).
If whatever small amount of resource there is was spent on services that people actually want, instead of those they are forced ( because there is nothing else) to have, then maybe we would see the true enlightenment that that era was supposed to bring!
 
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Seriously the anti-psychiatry hysteria on this forum is amazing. Now psychiatry is some well oiled machine in cohorts with the government and big pharma and is an agent of social control....give me a break!.

Look at the reality on the ground, there is zero investment across the uk in mental health. People are constantly coming on forums like these to say that there loved one is ranting and raving and digging holes in the walls for devices but they can't get them help.

And my own experience of waiting six years to get diagnosed from the initial breakdown.I had to move 300 miles to get diagnosed.

The reality is, its difficult to get help and treatment and mh services are completely run down and under funded.:drool:
A few of my opinions on the state of psychiatry in this country:

- There is a complete lack of alternative or talking therapies available. GP's are the first to admit that they hand out medication, often like smarties, because there is no alternative available.
- NHS mental health care functions mainly as a crisis service. It's clogged by time wasters and attention seekers. Unless people are a danger to themselves or others, or actively kick up a fuss, they are often left to their own devices. This leaves the severely mentally ill in a very vulnerable position.
- We are heavily influenced the DSM. A book constructed on the neurosis of America (toddlers on anti-psychotics and 5% of the population with ''bipolar''). The DSM should have no relevance to the U.K
- Drug company ''research'' is conducted in the U.S (where big pharma has a hell of a lot to answer for). This has massive clinical implications in the U.K.

These are just a few of the problems. And I don't think questioning these makes anyone hysterically anti-psychiatry.
 
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