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beating psychosis?

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Marcitko

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Hi all,

Did anyone manage to beat psychosis (no symptoms without meds) long term? If so, how?

I get the type with delusions but no voices or hallucinations. It's reccurent (yearly). My current psychiatrist/therapist claims I don't even have it, but use it as a defence mechanism to "growing up" and facing my childhood traumas. Don't know what to make of it - but the possibility of beating it through therapy is on my mind. Did that work for anyone?
 
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Interesting question, I'd like to hear others views on this. I don't think psychosis can be treated with therapy but I wonder if an episode can pass by itself?
 
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I am working on treating my psychosis without medication or therapy ( I'm too scared to have either.)

So far I have been working on analysing the cycles and trends of my own psychosis. Everytime it happens I analyse the whole thing and this takes absolutely ages and is exhausting. (It takes so long as I think it is all true for a long time after it has happened.)


With me, I have noticed it is triggered by periods of being relaxed. (After my first psychotic break, the doctors and nurses and everyone else just kept telling me that it happened because I was stressed. I kept saying but I'm not stressed. They said because I was doing a degree I must be stressed but I wasn't!)

So with this, I actively try to keep busy in my holiday periods, although I am never as busy at home as I am at work. So the psychosis keeps happening every time I have holiday from work.

It also means that even though I find it difficult to work, having this condition, I am determined to keep working as I know I would be a lot worse without work to go to.

I know I have to see my family every day.

I know I have to sleep over 7 hours each day. The most recent time I had psychosis (I have only just gotten over it), I was not sleeping at all so I could say to myself "just think about this....you haven't been sleeping...maybe this is a hallucination...?" However, it was so real to me that I still believed it.

I do exercise. It is most hard when experiencing the negative symptoms and not wanting to get out of bed or talk or leave the house. I am getting into a routine of doing a class that I have paid for in advance every week. Exercise helps me to clear my head and released endorphins which really do make me feel happy.

For me, leaving the house is really important. When I have psychosis I am too scared to leave the house. When I am forced to leave the house, I can gradually see that everything is not as bad as I anticipated.


My psychosis hasn't gone though. But I am working on it.
 
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I have it in control, had couple times particularly bad episodes/seasons. Trustworthy social contacts, sleep, exercise, meds, mimimum drugs etc.
 
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Maybe one day. It is a dream for me. In 2010 I stopped taking my meds, off my own accord. I did not ask the doc. But after that I went into deep psychosis, and still suffering today. Maybe when I get older, the symptoms will burn themselves out.
 
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I sometimes think what my life would be like if I took medication.

The only positive that I can think of is that I would be able to think clearly again and maybe feel relaxed? My negative symptoms would probably not go away.

There are so many side effects to the medication though. They encourage you to take the medication for the rest of your life but the long term effects of taking it are catastrophic. (Long term effects of taking anti-psychotics gives you a whole new disease and they symptoms of Parkinson's disease.)

This is because taking anti-psychotics greatly reduces the risk of a person hurting other people. It has got nothing to do with wanting the best for you.


I believe that psychological diseases such as Schizophrenia are caused by the way you think.
Neurological diseases are caused by problems with your brain.

Unless I am wrong, schizophrenia is a psychological disorder. Therefore why do doctors want to alter your brain (by making you take medication which has an effect on your brain)?

Why don't doctors want to help you to feel better by helping you to change the way you think?

In my opinion the answer to this question is because it is cheaper and easier to medicate people that to cure them/support them with people. And a lot of people say that the pharmaceutical companies want the money.

In my opinion people who have schizophrenia need to have therapy with a professional at least once a week. On top of that, they also need support to participate in therapeutic activities every day, such as exercise, gardening, art, music...

On top of that, they need support from people to gain employment (even if it is just an hour a week volunteering) and to keep themselves well (support to go shopping, cook healthy meals, dress appropriately)


In reality, none of these things are happening.


If people with schizophrenia were supported by a professional support worker most days of the week and a professional psychiatrist once a week, they would have a great chance of making a recovery. They wouldn't have to rely on medication so much.

Keeping busy without stress is vital for me.
 
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Unless I am wrong, schizophrenia is a psychological disorder.

In my opinion people who have schizophrenia need to have therapy with a professional at least once a week. On top of that, they also need support to participate in therapeutic activities every day, such as exercise, gardening, art, music...

In reality, none of these things are happening.

If people with schizophrenia were supported by a professional support worker most days of the week and a professional psychiatrist once a week, they would have a great chance of making a recovery. They wouldn't have to rely on medication so much.
Totally agree with your entire post. i think that the primary aetiology in the majority of what comes under psychosis/schizophrenia is psychogenic, & can be potentially resolved, with the right understanding, interventions, help & support.

The reaction/response from society/the mental health system is i think woefully inadequate, & often very damaging.

We have to create our own support, but that's hard & has difficulties.

i've battled all this my whole life & especially since the first major episode 25 years ago - have conceded to the diagnosis, illness/condition & medication. i don't see what other real choice there has been/is?

Nearly everything is primarily focused on the biomedical understanding & approach. 'You' end up at odds with society/the system with it all. It's tiring, on top of the condition.

It's exhausting enough trying to raise awareness on & argue alternatives on forums.
 
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Think that you need to watch for the triggers that cause the symptoms. If the symptom reoccurs again, you need to get back on the meds. Otherwise, just stay off it as long as possible.

You need to talk with your MD about this approach: 1) some meds do not reduce your symptoms right away; 2) some disorder may be developing in the absence of meds. I would consult people who know what they talk about, like those in the research hospital.
 
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This is straight out of my blog. The administrators in their wisdom of protecting themselves, deleted my other reply to this thread; But, you can read it directly from me and other writings I have on this and a wide breadth of mental health subjects starting here (click on the word 'here'). I allow comments and I moderate them softly (only personal attacks against anyone, fluff that doesn't contribute to the conversation, or blatant corporate propaganda is moderated).
 
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