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Are you a child or grandchild of an alcoholic?

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lilpixie

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Hiya All

My most recent research is looking in to nutritional links between symptoms caused by low serotonin & beta-endorphin levels. If you are a child or grandchild of an alcoholic this can genetically determine the bio-chemistry of your brain so as I am a grandchild of an alcoholic I wondered how many other people on the forum could have this possible genetic link?

lilpixie x
 
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My father was (is) an (recovering) alcholic, although he gave up drinking before I was born. I'm the youngest of 4 girls and by far the most f**ked up! lol
 
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ReccaG

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Damn, I feel the same. I'm the youngest of 4 girls and got a lill brother and I think I got the most issues.
 
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Yes my mom was alcoholicand I have schizoaffectve disorder the kind thats a mix of schizophrenia and biploar , also have ocd
 
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My mum had chronic alcohol problems though these kicked off some time after i was born. I don't think therefore it could have had a nutritional effect on me.
What it did have however was a profound psychological effect on me, as it did my brother and to a lesser extent my sister.
 
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I understood lilpixie to mean that the nutritional effect would have been on your mom (or on my dad in my case) causing low seratonin and beta-endorphin levels in them, which in turn, could have been genetically passed down to us.
 
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Yes Blossom the research I have been doing shows the bio-chemistry of your brain just like how you look etc can be genetic. I am altering my diet following the "Potatoes not Prozac" program which works on naturally increasing your serotonin, beta-endorphin & sugar levels through the food you eat and when you eat it. My inability to cope with my emotions is always worst the week before I have my periods - this is apparently the time women's beta-endorphin levels are at the lowest so if you naturally have a brain with low beta-endorphin levels you need to boost your beta-endorphin level then to cope. If you do this through medication eventually your brain gets used to it in the same way your brain gets used to being on a pain killer over a period of time so the medication stops working or you need to change meds or increase the dose.

lilpixie x
 
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firemonkee57

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I understood lilpixie to mean that the nutritional effect would have been on your mom (or on my dad in my case) causing low seratonin and beta-endorphin levels in them, which in turn, could have been genetically passed down to us.

I am wondering how something could have been passed down as a result of an alcoholism that wasn't present when i was born. Unless you are saying that low poor nutrition was a trigger for low seratonin etc
and subsequent alcohol problems . In that way i could see a genetic 'passing down'.
None of my siblings and i are alcoholics though we have had some issues with drink. Brother used to drink like my mother but cut right down/sister has to watch her drinking/ and i ,though virtually teetotal most of the time, turn to a lot of drink quickly at times of acute emotional stress. A problem i have had for years.
 
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It has been scientifically proven that an alcoholic brain is different from a "normal" brain so the biochemical make up of this brain is different. Just because you have a parent who is an alcoholic this does not mean you will inherit this brain biochemistry but you may. If you do inherit this brain biochemistry you will have low beta-endorphin levels which mean your ability to cope with emotional pain are lower than a "normal" person. What you eat and when can raise your beta-endorphin, seratonin and sugar levels to reduce impulsive behaviour, anger outbursts, anxiety and depression. The psychiatric community has concentrated on seratonin levels but are now started to look at beta-endorphion levels which are just as important.

lilpixie x
 
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Which comes first in these studies?

brain -----> drink
drink -----> brain

What are these studies observing?
 
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lilpixie

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The studies are observing beta-endorphin levels

lilpixie
 
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From looking at them are you satisfied they are measuring what it is about the brain that makes the person drink, or could they just be measuring the effect of drinking over a long period of time on the brain?
 
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The author used the same nutritional program at her rehab centers in the States and as far as I know is the only person with over a 90% success rate. I am on stage 1 of the nutritional program so will report back how I am doing but so far so good. Have had some very stressful events to deal with recently and am doing better than ever.

lilpixie x
 
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Glad to hear you are doing well. Good luck with it all.
 
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I'm so glad you're doing well even though you'd had a difficult time as of late! A very interesting study, I havn't had time to really delve into any of it research wise, but when I get a chance, it definately sounds like something worth looking at!
 
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