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Andhika

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Hi all,

I was diagnosed with depression with associated anxiety. That was way back in '67. I have forgotten the med. the doctor prescribed but I do remember it was at a teaching hospital. The med. made me sick initially and I never got used to its side effects. I was on it a couple of years but stopped it when I started working.

Since then I had numerous relapses requiring medical treatment and it was tiring. The docs always prescribed me anti-depressants rather than anxiolytics for anxiety. They were of the opinion benzos was too addictive and not effective over long term. On bad occasions I had to stay in hospital.

Mental illness is sickening, it leaves for a moment and then returns. So far there is no magic bullet and the treatment period is long and never certain as to its outcome.
 
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OliviaAustralia

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It sounds like after so long of fighting this you're feeling worn out and frustrated and that's understandable. The important thing is using any support system you have! I know its hard though and I really feel for you.

I know it may be difficult to view it this way but I would actually see it as a positive that your doctor doesn't want to describe benzos. In my extensive experience with them, benzos are a bandaid that will become less effective over time because you will quickly build a tolerance. That said, I have found them to be useful when used very sparingly as a when-you-need-instant-relief kind of moments (but even then I am so careful because I do have substance abuse issues).

That said, surely there are other options. This year, in addition to my anti-depressant, my doc put me on 150mg Quetiapine XR (the slow-releasing one) which is technically an anti-psychotic but it did absolute wonders for lowering my level of general anxiety. I am not a medical professional and of course you should always defer to docs for medical advice (just a quick disclaimer) but maybe you could discuss the possibility of using something similar?

I really hope you get the help you need. Sending you lots of kind thoughts.
 
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Andhika

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It sounds like after so long of fighting this you're feeling worn out and frustrated and that's understandable. The important thing is using any support system you have! I know its hard though and I really feel for you.

I know it may be difficult to view it this way but I would actually see it as a positive that your doctor doesn't want to describe benzos. In my extensive experience with them, benzos are a bandaid that will become less effective over time because you will quickly build a tolerance. That said, I have found them to be useful when used very sparingly as a when-you-need-instant-relief kind of moments (but even then I am so careful because I do have substance abuse issues).

That said, surely there are other options. This year, in addition to my anti-depressant, my doc put me on 150mg Quetiapine XR (the slow-releasing one) which is technically an anti-psychotic but it did absolute wonders for lowering my level of general anxiety. I am not a medical professional and of course you should always defer to docs for medical advice (just a quick disclaimer) but maybe you could discuss the possibility of using something similar?

I really hope you get the help you need. Sending you lots of kind thoughts.
I agree with you benzos cannot and should not be taken on a regular basis because it does not work over the long haul and coming of it is torrid. I know enough about the horrible experiences people have trying to wean off benzo addiction.

It is indeed tiring and exhausting and downright frustrating these 5 decades over trying to fight something that always seem to get the upper hand. Oftentimes I just wanna say, I am done, finished....so be it, do your worst.

Perhaps, you might hv realized there are hardly any support systems in my country, and public health systems are so deficient, that it is better to give them a wide berth. The health structure is not our forte and never has been.

For relief, and I guess for most of us here, we turn to our religious leaders for guidance and help. In my case, I have my local pastor who prays for me and I attend the chapel on Sundays just so to be as close to my Lord as possible. It may sound strange but I find comfort when in His presence. Please do not misunderstand me, I m not proselytizing but just stating the facts as they are.

Ps. Sorry I have not heard of quetiapine.
 
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OliviaAustralia

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I agree with you benzos cannot and should not be taken on a regular basis because it does not work over the long haul and coming of it is torrid. I know enough about the horrible experiences people have trying to wean off benzo addiction.

It is indeed tiring and exhausting and downright frustrating these 5 decades over trying to fight something that always seem to get the upper hand. Oftentimes I just wanna say, I am done, finished....so be it, do your worst.

Perhaps, you might hv realized there are hardly any support systems in my country, and public health systems are so deficient, that it is better to give them a wide berth. The health structure is not our forte and never has been.

For relief, and I guess for most of us here, we turn to our religious leaders for guidance and help. In my case, I have my local pastor who prays for me and I attend the chapel on Sundays just so to be as close to my Lord as possible. It may sound strange but I find comfort when in His presence. Please do not misunderstand me, I m not proselytizing but just stating the facts as they are.
. Sorry I have not heard of quetiapine.
Yes I do count myself as very privileged to live in Australia where the health system is good (not perfect but very good). I cant imagine the frustration you must go through, when I lived in Indonesia I must admit even my very small amount of interaction with the health system was difficult, and that was as a bule.
I'm glad that you're able to find comfort in your relationship with your God. Being on forums like this will also hopefully be of some comfort to you.
What I encourage you to do is keep researching and bring your ideas to your doctors. Have a look into some information about slow-release Quetiapine. If that medication isn't available to you, then just dont give up on that research and advocating for yourself even if it means turning up at the doctors office with a list of medicines that others have said work for them.
You're in a tough situation and I can completely understand your exhaustion. but I think you're taking a really positive step by reaching out on here :)
Aku akan mendoakanmu. All the best.
 
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I have only recently been diagnosed with severe anxiety and depression, a lot of friends and family believe it's to do with Covid-19. I have been suffering with it for years but I only seeked help recently.

I decided to have therapy sessions instead of medication so I am not familiar with meds. I cannot imagine what it is like to suffer with a mental illness for so long. I had been fighting with it alone for many years and I am only young. I would just like some advice from people on how to deal with it. I've gotten to the stage where it's making me physically ill and I feel as if I'm getting weaker and weaker everyday. Please, if you could help me, it would mean everything.

All the best,
Rosie :)
 
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Andhika

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Yes I do count myself as very privileged to live in Australia where the health system is good (not perfect but very good). I cant imagine the frustration you must go through, when I lived in Indonesia I must admit even my very small amount of interaction with the health system was difficult, and that was as a bule.
I'm glad that you're able to find comfort in your relationship with your God. Being on forums like this will also hopefully be of some comfort to you.
What I encourage you to do is keep researching and bring your ideas to your doctors. Have a look into some information about slow-release Quetiapine. If that medication isn't available to you, then just dont give up on that research and advocating for yourself even if it means turning up at the doctors office with a list of medicines that others have said work for them.
You're in a tough situation and I can completely understand your exhaustion. but I think you're taking a really positive step by reaching out on here :)
Aku akan mendoakanmu. All the best.
Sad it may be, we have been living with it for so many years, we accept it as part of life. Are we fatalistic, in a sense yes. A foreigner, bule or otherwise can give an honest and unbiased account of the situation here. But it is my country, I am grateful warts and all. It was even worse during the Dutch colonial era.

I did do quite extensive research on this subject and the treatment options available. And I did discuss my findings with a few doctors, but they told me not to self-research on the internet. So in one sentence, I was brushed aside. Perhaps in advanced countries, such exertions are well received by the medical community, but our medicos are still living in the paleolithic age.

I have heard about SR meds but my concern is that it might not be a good idea for an old man like man like me. The concern here is the time taken for half the metabolite to be evacuated from the system for a person like me is much slower than for a younger healthy adult. Therein lies my concern in SR medications.

Anyway many thanks for the suggestions and I will heed your suggestion to continue seeking answers from all sources, may be some day, somewhere.....

Saya juga berdoa agar, ibu diberkahi kesihatan yang baik dan sempurna sepanjang hayat ibu.
 
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Andhika

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Location
Malang City, East Java, Indonesia
I have only recently been diagnosed with severe anxiety and depression, a lot of friends and family believe it's to do with Covid-19. I have been suffering with it for years but I only seeked help recently.

I decided to have therapy sessions instead of medication so I am not familiar with meds. I cannot imagine what it is like to suffer with a mental illness for so long. I had been fighting with it alone for many years and I am only young. I would just like some advice from people on how to deal with it. I've gotten to the stage where it's making me physically ill and I feel as if I'm getting weaker and weaker everyday. Please, if you could help me, it would mean everything.h

All the best,
Rosie :)
Hi. The therapy sessions that you have started will take time before the full benefits are felt. But I believe that the general consensus among experts is that a combination of therapy and medication is the best way forward. The specialist will assess you and build a profile of you before making his diagnosis and prescribing the medication he feels is best for you. The medicines take time and one has to be patient and not expect quick results.

Your response to therapy and med is relative to the number of years you have been suffering. If treatment had been sought at the onset of symptoms, the healing process is usually quicker.

Feeling sick and tired are symptomatic of your condition and as you progress in your treatment, these negative symptoms will gradually disappear.

Best of luck in your journey to getting well again.
 
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