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Adult Social Care and Budgets

Per Ardua Ad Astra

Per Ardua Ad Astra

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My Life Coach through the (contracted-out to the NHS) ASD service I've been attending, is trying to get adult social care for me :)

As I understand it, needs are assessesd, and then a 'pot' of money is awarded to the client, who can then choose from a range of various service providers, and use the money to get the help and support they need.

The money can pay for people to act as kind of personal assistants, who come and take you out, to appointments etc, or to socialize. There are other things the money can be spent on as well I think, training for example.

I'm very much in the dark about all this.

Do any of you have experience of adult social care and assessments, and how the money is awarded and used, and what sort of things it can be spent on.

I'm pissed off and in the dark here
 
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nightmare57

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I have a social services personal budget. When I first became known to the LD department 8 years my social worker deemed returning to my bungalow would have a detrimental effect and worsen my mental health. After I left hospital I was moved into temporary supported living accommodation, my social worker applied to whats called a Panel for funding for my support hours. I can't remember what hours I got then I moved into a permanent supported living house 7 years ago and my social worker put it to panel again and I got given 21 hours a week one to one plus 55 share hours a week shared between myself and my housemates and funding for a day centre placement.

I could also have an advocate if I wanted employed by direct payments but I feel direct payments is a lot of hassle because you are basically employing your staff yourself, It works for some but I rather have my support package paid directly to a supported living company.

If you have any specific questions I would be more than happy to try and answer them.
 
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Thanks :)

That's already been very helpful, cos I hadn't understood the difference between direct payments and this sort of social care budget. I don't like direct payments were you act as an employer to the supporter. I'd rather have it paid to the provider directly as well, much like my housing benefit is currently paid to my landlord, for example :)

Cheers for your reply, Bro :)

I think I could benefit from social and behavioural training too, and communication and sensory training. I'm keen to see some of my budget go on this. I may get money to continue seeing my Life Coach too, after the NHS-funded sessions are at an end :)

I'll come back again with any questions that arise :)
 
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It might be beneficial to have input from a occupational therapist with regards to behavioural training and other social awareness stuff. Just having a support worker with me reassures me a lot and gives me encouragment me to partake in social activates I wouldn't normally partake in. I use my support staff to do my weekly shopping, some staff I use for what I call emotionally support sessions, lol. Some staff I use for practical things on my allotment. I also go to the cinema with my staff, they get in free because they are my support staff.

The thing is if you opt for a supported living company and have your budget paid directly to them there is a much boarder spectrum off staff you have working with you and they will be able to tailer your needs around which staff you have on. If you went direct payments you would be stuck with 1/2 staff and it can get boring working with the same staff members all the time.
 
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In my case I qualified for support from adult social care and my mh social worker was wanting two one hour sessions a week to help me at home. To begin with they wanted 90 pounds an hour!!!

In the end it was reduced to 45 pounds an hour, but frankly That would have been all my DLA, and I would rather spend it on steak and steroids. So I turned it down. I have no savings ,live in local authority accomodation, no family ,they means tested my benefits and counted that as income. I know for a fact the support workers would not have got 45 pound an hour for me, most of that would have gone to the care company.

It's all a giant con job it seems designed to cream off someones benefits. There were going to leave me with a hundred pound a week and that was to to cover my rent, elecric/gas and debts as well as food. No thanks.
 
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I've been told it will not effect my PIP at all :)

But as I've discovered in this life, there is often a fair measure of distance between how people present, and what they say, and the reality. The deficit is not always a good one, I have to say, and often we suffer that little bit more as a result :)

What I am able to do, is fully explore the options around adult social care, and only take up any kind of service if it's free at the point of delivery (like the NHS is supposed to be lol), or at least, costs me incredibly little - like next to nothing :)

Quite honestly, from what I've seen of some of the services so far, paying them for their trouble is a low priority on my agenda. The state pays them already :)
 
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i applied with the help of an advocate yrs ago went all the way to the parliamentary ombudsman who referred it back to brent council, think he didn't understand about mental health and was more experienced in physical health, couldn't relate to what i was asking for money for

saw brent council social worker who told me to find god that was the end of that

maybe it's changed, i'm not into money to pay for services i'm pretty independent that way though i could do with more money to spend on what i want, i gether they don't offer that

with the change to universal credit i could do with money, but not to pay for social services style care things
 
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i have social services care for my mental and physical care needs....but i take the money out of my PIP. i do not get direct payments as i have been told that would mean employing a personal assistant and mentally i am not considered to have capacity for that
 
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I'm deemed not to have capacity when I'm unwell so I have an appointee at social services who manages my finances. My benefits get paid to them and they pay all my essentials and give me a personal allowance every week to purchase my food and other things. It works well for me because it prevents me from overspending and getting in to debt like I used to before the appointee.
 
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