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A diary of bad experiences on drugs: Raising awareness

Not_Crazy_Yet

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So I was watching a youtube video about experiences with different drugs, how they make you feel, and generally what the down side looks like. When I first started watching this guys videos it seemed at first like he was romanticizing these drugs he was talking about. But I watched on and I realized this guy was digging and clawing his way up from the gutter. In some of his videos he looks twacked out. But that's the bigger picture, harm reduction as my substance abuse counselor calls it. If you're doing meth, cocaine, and heroin but you're able to slow down and or stop taking cocaine for instance its a win. Sure the heroin and meth are bad but recovery is a process. In his newer videos hes 4 years clean, talks about recovery, and even lists his cell number for anyone to text him if they're having trouble coping. In his videos he explains that he was a poly addict (meaning more than one active addiction) and that his goal was to try every drug out there. I can relate to that as I'm sure some of you can as well. But what really resonated with me was his video on salvia divinorum.

I too have taken salvia, not a lot of people have even heard of it. It comes from Mexico as I understand it. I was not aware however that it doesn't affect the same receptors in the brain as LSD, DMT, psylicybin, or mescaline do. That explains why it took so long to get banned in the US. For the longest time you could buy it in any head shop, sometimes even at a convenience store behind the glass with the "novelty" pipes and kratoms are located.

Practically every independently owned convenience store at least in my state has pipes and other goodies along with pipecleaners, pipe screens, rolling papers, etc.

I won't mention exact methods or dosages as I believe that would violate forum rules relating to self harm. Also I don't want it on my conscience that you killed yourself or another while following my instructions. These aren't instructions and I DO NOT CONDONE THE USE OF ANY SUBSTANCES NOR DO I ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY ACTIONS CARRIED OUT BASED UPON THE FOLLOWING.

Now that that's out of the way I want to share the most frightening experience in my life. If you choose to share a horror story of your own feel free BUT do not mention specific amounts NOR paraphernalia necessary.

I had heard a lot about salvia, I had never read any personal experiences of it online before but did have a friend who described his experience as having the TV wrap around his body and he was in the Tv show. Sounded good to me. I mean why not I had taken magic mushrooms quite a few times before, and I had tripped out on angel dust. This was just the "next" level right? Wrong. So a friend and I went to the local head shop and bought some new accessories and a packet of salvia each. It came in different strengths. 5X,10X,20X,50X, and 100X. My friend who was experienced with acid and had even overdosed on "4 way window pane" acid got the 5X. I called him a bitch and got the 100X. When we got home he went first. We mixed our salvia with MJ and smoked it. As he exhaled he closed his eyes and started making the most peculiar faces. When he started coming around after a few minutes at most he said man I felt like a stop sign that folded into a rubber ball. Then he kept asking am I really back? Are you sure I'm back? Am I back? I heard all I needed to hear. I got out my 100X packet and mixed it with MJ and went in. Before I knew it I was in the clouds, beautiful blue skies with wispy white clouds. And I felt kind of peaceful. Then I started communicating with some one or some thing and they took me to a place where I could see myself and all of these people around me at a finite point would all tilt their heads back and talk like robots. Although I cant recall what they had said. But it was a Deja vu and then I would see myself get impaled by a spear. Then it would start over and as the robots said whatever it was they said all in harmony with one another I would see myself have a heart attack and die. And every time when the robots would speak I would die. Over and over and over and over again. This went on for about 1000 years or so. But every time I would start a new life I lived in fear of the robots talking because I knew that meant certain death. I eventually started coming down and I was in the clouds again. They were nice and comforting and I had accepted that I was dead and that this was heaven. Never again would I feel anything. I had died too many times for that. Then I noticed something peculiar. I saw my Tv. And it sat upon my tv stand. My bookshelf was there also, we were all in these clouds and all I could think of was they were all going to get smashed falling from such a height. Then I slowly began to realize that I was back home. Sitting in the floor now and I didn't remember how I got there. I kept asking my friend am I back? Is it really over? Are you sure I'm back? Am I really back? After some time I felt a little better but he said something that gave me deja vu. I knew it! Now hes gonna talk like a robot and I'll die again! But I didn't die. What did happen was over the next week or 2 I would have deja vu and I just knew I was gonna die. The robots would start i knew it. But they didn't start up. And so they still haven't but my mind was altered in such a way that I still get the fear.

What I had done was as they say in stoned/junkie circles I had "broken thru" to the "other side" delving into a yet unexplored map higher than human beings can think of. Like a spiritual realm, but not one we were supposed to stumble upon. Maybe a place beyond where the gods play tricks on foolish mortals who tread where they are unwelcome. Far beyond the reaches of where your average drug abuser goes.

I don't mean to make light of this nor do I advise anyone to try it. My aim is to keep others from doing such. My advise is don't do it. Salvia is the strongest naturally occurring hallucinogenic drug on the face of planet earth. And there's a reason its illegal. Would I ever do it again? I seriously doubt it. One and done. My friend has further experimented with it. He said he had to keep trying it to fully understand it but once he made peace with it he stopped. He never tried the 100X stuff. He didn't want to go that far. And now that I have I wish I hadn't.
 
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I have a question NCY,
Is Sativa a strain of weed? I was actually afraid to even try that strain because I saw a video of some guy falling out a window when he was sitting on a couch. I’ve tried the weed strain but is this something else?

Salvia ok, opps. I can’t erase.
 
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I have a question NCY,
Is Sativa a strain of weed? I was actually afraid to even try that strain because I saw a video of some guy falling out a window when he was sitting on a couch. I’ve tried the weed strain but is this something else?

Salvia ok, opps. I can’t erase.
Cannabis has 3 basic types. Sativa, Indica, and Hybrid of the 2. Sativa I think is supposed to give a body buzz and indica gives a head buzz.

Salvia divinorum is a flowering plant I believe, you can buy salvia seeds in the garden center but its not divinorum.
Salvia means sage. Divinorum means diviner like a psychic, or medicine man sort of. Its native to Mexico and I believe its illegal in all 50 States now. Salvia is SCARY, especially if you're smoking pot, taking pills, drinking, doing speed, still have heroin in your system and take a handful of magic mushrooms. There are things not meant for mortals. Salvia is one of them. Looking back on it I should be dead. All of the crazy shit ive done could have killed me more than once.
 
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Thanks NCY,
Yeah, that was some trip you went on. I smoke weed and someone slipped me acid once but that was as far as I went. Being schizophrenic and not having the symptoms as much makes me think I could handle it now but I think it scares me too much to try anything like that but acid or mushrooms I could do. I ate mail order poppy seeds to see if I could really get a buzz from it but I only felt prickly from it. It was suppose to be the illegal kind. Maybe it wasn’t, I’m not sure.
Their was a lot of drugs in your system for that trip. Did u ever just do the salvia by itself? Since the name means diviner, would you see it as a psychic experience?
I’m glad your still with us:)keep it that way, ok. So many people overdose on shit and I wouldn’t want it to happen to you. :hug:
 
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Thanks NCY,
Yeah, that was some trip you went on. I smoke weed and someone slipped me acid once but that was as far as I went. Being schizophrenic and not having the symptoms as much makes me think I could handle it now but I think it scares me too much to try anything like that but acid or mushrooms I could do. I ate mail order poppy seeds to see if I could really get a buzz from it but I only felt prickly from it. It was suppose to be the illegal kind. Maybe it wasn’t, I’m not sure.
Their was a lot of drugs in your system for that trip. Did u ever just do the salvia by itself? Since the name means diviner, would you see it as a psychic experience?
I’m glad your still with us:)keep it that way, ok. So many people overdose on shit and I wouldn’t want it to happen to you. :hug:
I've never had acid UNLESS the magic mushrooms I had when I saw clowns were just store bought mushrooms dipped in acid. If you decide to try magic mushrooms you have to understand part of you gets left in that world and in exchange part of that world comes back with you. Normally I would say that anything from the earth is ok but shrooms are a trip man. The first time I tried them I had a notebook taking notes to keep a log. Looking back at it the words on the page just started getting bigger and BIGGER and BIGGER. Then the words just went all wrong and screwed up. I thought I had been poisoned when it started. Also I didn't know it would last like 15 hours. I figured I'd trip for like 4 hours or less. One of the most disturbing things is looking in he mirror. The man in the mirror doesn't look right, then you notice your pupils are totally dialated. I have brown eyes but when I take shrooms theyre black. No color left at all like 12mm pupils. Which is handy if you do them at night. If you go for a walk thru the woods you have total night vision. No flashlight necessary. I've never done them during the day, most people need dark sunglasses when tripping during the day. Some things are pleasant, like looking at the trees. They look kinda like lollipops or something. The sky swirls and swirls like coffee with cream on the top when its all swirly. The grass grows up around you like 4 feet high. The first time what worried me was the wood paneling in my house started melting together and the carpet started climbing up the wall and melting. If you ever try them its adviseable to have a trip sitter. Someone who knows what to expect and can reel you in if you start having a bad trip. Before I die I want to try mushrooms again but its hard to find them and even sketchier is if this hippie dude picked the right ones as the look alikes are poisonous. There is a variety that grows in Georgia that only live in like 4 counties and they're all heavily populated so pickers have to sneak in some dudes back yard and pick them. I got lucky. The guy I got them from his best friend had a house in the area and they would pick like a pound a week during the like 3 or 4 week growing season.

But best avoided unless you're really sure you want to.

I smoked salvia in a blunt one time and it just made me goofy. That was an expensive mistake. $35 a gram and I didn't get high. I could have gotten an eigth of some good weed for the price. As I say there's a certain procedure and certain equipment needed to make it work. But GOD does it work. Ive had salvia I guess 3 times, maybe 4. To get a truly psychedelic experience you gotta smoke it with weed. Guaranteed to break thru that way if you follow the steps. I don't think the mods would appreciate me listing those on the forum though. Never tried poppy seeds but I did hear of an elderly Asian couple having the DEA kick in their front door because somehow the poppy flowers they had around the walkway were true opium poppies. Nobody knows how they got there. And the couple were unaware. They were practically housebound. Maybe their grandson brought some home from Vietnam who knows.

Psychic, no. Psychedelic and religious experience, yes.
 
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I've never had acid UNLESS the magic mushrooms I had when I saw clowns were just store bought mushrooms dipped in acid. If you decide to try magic mushrooms you have to understand part of you gets left in that world and in exchange part of that world comes back with you. Normally I would say that anything from the earth is ok but shrooms are a trip man. The first time I tried them I had a notebook taking notes to keep a log. Looking back at it the words on the page just started getting bigger and BIGGER and BIGGER. Then the words just went all wrong and screwed up. I thought I had been poisoned when it started. Also I didn't know it would last like 15 hours. I figured I'd trip for like 4 hours or less. One of the most disturbing things is looking in he mirror. The man in the mirror doesn't look right, then you notice your pupils are totally dialated. I have brown eyes but when I take shrooms theyre black. No color left at all like 12mm pupils. Which is handy if you do them at night. If you go for a walk thru the woods you have total night vision. No flashlight necessary. I've never done them during the day, most people need dark sunglasses when tripping during the day. Some things are pleasant, like looking at the trees. They look kinda like lollipops or something. The sky swirls and swirls like coffee with cream on the top when its all swirly. The grass grows up around you like 4 feet high. The first time what worried me was the wood paneling in my house started melting together and the carpet started climbing up the wall and melting. If you ever try them its adviseable to have a trip sitter. Someone who knows what to expect and can reel you in if you start having a bad trip. Before I die I want to try mushrooms again but its hard to find them and even sketchier is if this hippie dude picked the right ones as the look alikes are poisonous. There is a variety that grows in Georgia that only live in like 4 counties and they're all heavily populated so pickers have to sneak in some dudes back yard and pick them. I got lucky. The guy I got them from his best friend had a house in the area and they would pick like a pound a week during the like 3 or 4 week growing season.

But best avoided unless you're really sure you want to.

I smoked salvia in a blunt one time and it just made me goofy. That was an expensive mistake. $35 a gram and I didn't get high. I could have gotten an eigth of some good weed for the price. As I say there's a certain procedure and certain equipment needed to make it work. But GOD does it work. Ive had salvia I guess 3 times, maybe 4. To get a truly psychedelic experience you gotta smoke it with weed. Guaranteed to break thru that way if you follow the steps. I don't think the mods would appreciate me listing those on the forum though. Never tried poppy seeds but I did hear of an elderly Asian couple having the DEA kick in their front door because somehow the poppy flowers they had around the walkway were true opium poppies. Nobody knows how they got there. And the couple were unaware. They were practically housebound. Maybe their grandson brought some home from Vietnam who knows.

Psychic, no. Psychedelic and religious experience, yes.

Hi NCY,
Do u get flashbacks from mushrooms? Is that what you mean by bring something back. I guess since I’m schizophrenic, it wouldn’t really bother me. I don’t have any kind of mushroom connection like that, so I have no choice but to not do it. Wish I did but then again, I don’t trust anyone to tripsit Lol.
God, I love hearing your drug stories :)I think it’s really interesting how we think and what we see on drugs. I knows it’s not for everyone. It sounds like fun to me, if you have the right kinda company. Maybe one day, Who knows. Thanks Again for story time :hug:
 
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Yes and no. I do have like sort of flashbacks but what I mean by part of you stays there is that your rational self that decides that you wanna trip and have a good time stays in the pychedelic world and in exchange you get a sort of understanding and memory of the trip. Kinda like a souvenir but one that you pay for with rational thought. Ever since trying shrooms I get trippy patterns and flowing and crawling visions when I see faux stone or faux wooden patterns. Some carpet patterns start swirling and occasionally start crawling up the walls.
 
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Yes and no. I do have like sort of flashbacks but what I mean by part of you stays there is that your rational self that decides that you wanna trip and have a good time stays in the pychedelic world and in exchange you get a sort of understanding and memory of the trip. Kinda like a souvenir but one that you pay for with rational thought. Ever since trying shrooms I get trippy patterns and flowing and crawling visions when I see faux stone or faux wooden patterns. Some carpet patterns start swirling and occasionally start crawling up the walls.
I still don't understand, I think I would actually have to try it to understand.

So when you look at patterns, is that a flashback that messes with your vision?

I have to ask you this. Can you separate the schizophrenia symptom or from drugs? or are they the same kind of thing?

Sorry that I have so many questions, I'm just really curious. I hope you don't mind:hug:
 
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I still don't understand, I think I would actually have to try it to understand.

So when you look at patterns, is that a flashback that messes with your vision?

I have to ask you this. Can you separate the schizophrenia symptom or from drugs? or are they the same kind of thing?

Sorry that I have so many questions, I'm just really curious. I hope you don't mind:hug:
I don't mind. No tripping and having psychotic symptoms are not the same thing. At least not for shrooms. Acid maybe. The flashbacks I can definately tell are not schizophrenic. They're something else. I never noticed the thing with patterns before trying shrooms.
 
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