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1. They have unusual sleep, eating or drinking habits that differ from their normal ones.

When a person seems to have changed the way they sleep or eat in significant ways, that’s often a sign that something is wrong. Sleep is the foundation of both good health and mental health. When a person can’t sleep (or sleeps for far too long) every day, that may be a sign of hidden depression.

Others turn to food or alcohol to try and quash their feelings. Overeating can help someone who is depressed feel full, which in turn helps them feel less emotionally empty inside. Drinking may be used to help cover up the feelings of sadness and loneliness that often accompany depression. Sometimes a person will go in the other direction too — losing all interest in food or drinking, because they see no point in it, or it brings them no joy.

2. They wear a forced “happy face” and are always making excuses.

We’ve all seen someone who seems like they are trying to force happiness. It’s a mask we all wear from time to time. But in most cases, the mask wears thin the longer you spend time with the person who’s wearing it. That’s why lots of people with hidden depression try not to spend any more time with others than they absolutely have to. They seem to always have a quick and ready excuse for not being able to hang out, go to dinner, or see you.

It’s hard to see behind the mask of happiness that people with hidden depression wear. Sometimes you can catch a glimpse of it in a moment of honesty, or when there’s a conversation lull.

3. They may talk more philosophically than normal.

When you do finally catch up with a person with masked depression, you may find the conversation turning to philosophical topics they don’t normally talk much about. These might include the meaning of life, or what their life has amounted to so far. They may even open up enough to acknowledge occasional thoughts of wanting to hurt themselves or even thoughts of death. They may talk about finding happiness or a better path in the journey of life.

These kinds of topics may be a sign that a person is struggling internally with darker thoughts that they dare not share.

4. They may put out a cry for help, only to take it back.

People with hidden depression struggle fiercely with keeping it hidden. Sometimes, they give up the struggle to conceal their true feelings and so they tell someone about it. They may even take the first step and make an appointment with a doctor or therapist, and a handful will even will make it to the first session.

But then they wake up the next day and realize they’ve gone too far. Seeking out help for their depression would be admitting they truly are depressed. That is an acknowledgment that many people with concealed depression struggle with and cannot make. Nobody else is allowed to see their weakness.

5. They feel things more intensely than normal.

A person with masked depression often feels emotions more intensely than others. This might come across as someone who doesn’t normally cry while watching a TV show or movie suddenly breaks out in tears during a poignant scene. Or someone who doesn’t normally get angry about anything suddenly gets very mad at a driver who cut them off in traffic. Or someone who doesn’t usually express terms of endearment suddenly is telling you that they love you.

It’s like by keeping their depressive feelings all boxed up, other feelings leak out around the edges more easily.

6. They may look at things with a less optimistic point of view than usual.

Psychologists refer to this phenomenon as depressive realism, and there’s some research evidence to suggest that it’s true. When a person suffers from depression, they may actually have a more realistic picture of the world around them and their impact on it. People who aren’t depressed, on the other hand, tend to be more optimistic and have expectations that aren’t as grounded in their actual circumstances. Non-depressed people believed they performed better on laboratory tasks than they actually did, compared to people with depression (Moore & Fresco, 2012).

It’s sometimes harder to cover-up this depressive realism, because the difference in attitude may be very small and not come across as something “depressing.” Instead of saying, “I really think I’ll get that promotion this time!” after having been passed over it four previous times, they may say, “Well, I’m up for that promotion again, but I doubt I’ll get it.”

(Taken from Psych Central- World of Psychology)
 
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Aspects of depreshion

This reads as an interesting analysis of depression.

I would not consider these symptoms as being hidden rather just overshowed by stronger symptoms.

The happy face as described in section 2 has many variables. It is important to play the smiling depressive to survive each day. To withdraw from this activity could indicate that negative thoughts and behaviors have conquered and although we all need some down time, we must fight. Doing tasks which have no enjoyment prove the hardest, i.e. housework, gardening, these are the one’s which should be given the biggest push.

After a couple of knockbacks, the offer to go out often declines. It is better to be real and say I am not at my best right now, but I will contact you when I am able, and do so. Going out and messing thing up is worse than not going at all. It is a judgement call.

Several aspects with section 3.
If deep conversation cannot be exchanged for trivial and mental health referral may be needed. As it is hard to know where that type of conversation may lead.

Section 4 looks at the mental state at the time of asking for help. The depressed person has got to be ready to let it go and the recipient must be able to deal with any outpouring. This is often hit and miss and the reason depression, negative thoughts and suicide sometimes go unnoticed.
Having negative thoughts within the spectrum of depression is often the reason things are more intensely felt. We always remember the negative times in our lives with more floridity that we do the positive ones.

Depressive realism, who knows? What is right for one may not be right for another.
Rule of thumb, if it make you happy then it’s good.

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Depressive realism-wouldn't that suggest that we the depressed are the actual normal ones and people who are not depressed are the mentally ill ones since we actually have the correct view of life according to that?
 
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It is better to be real and say I am not at my best right now, but I will contact you when I am able, and do so. Going out and messing thing up is worse than not going at all. It is a judgement call.

That for me is an ever daily consideration. Otherwise I burn bridges. Also I am so tired of “coping” I haven’t got the energy to be real whatever that is
 
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Depressive realism is a very subjective theory.
Who know who is right and who is wrong?
If your reality make you happy then that`s your stand.
 
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Oh I understand that. Sometimes I use theory as a method of escapism and distraction, although for the bulk of the time my thinking is cloud and my energy has gone.
 
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trekkie is my escapism yeah thinking cloud and low energy know that one
 
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We have just got a new dog and he takes my mind off things.
He's a 10 month old boxer. He is very playful and bright.
We got Masson 3 months ago, now this current bout of depression is into it's 5 week.
My depression isn't very deep, although it is reducing my enjoyment of life.
 
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both my bro n me sis are trying to encourage me to get a dog but i am just not sure. too many what ifs

and any-road my feet are shite. so thought they would have gotten better by now
 
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Yer - Its a lot of work, but it keeps me active
What the matter with your feet?
 
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long story short got Plantar Fasciitis: Causes, Symptoms & Diagnosis. saves me having to spell it also!!

the annoying thing is that it is in both feet and also the practitioner reckons it is down to stress in my case. i used to walk miles and miles to get beyond the anxiety levels. obviously i walked me feet off!! and i havent been able to do this for 3 1/2 years now. so i am starting to put on weight and life is just the flat. i only do walking that i need to do these days. sometimes i just go for "walks" not very long and then i am shattered.
 

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