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12 years old - possible schizophrenia?

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I am 12 and have been told that I have early signs of paranoid schizophrenia. I understand that a lot of schizophrenics hear voices that are often judgemental and critical - I do not hear voices, however, I am certain that there is someone watching everything I do, 24/7, and that this person is judging and criticising me. Do you think, if I do not seek professional help, that this could develop into a voice? Please tell me your thoughts.
 
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Hi Monsters and welcome. :welcome:

May I ask who told you that you have early signs of paranoid Schizophrenia?
 
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Several internet screening tests, and some of my friends. Who are older than me and very intelligent =]
 
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Several internet screening tests, and some of my friends. Who are older than me and very intelligent =]
Hi monsters and :welcome:
I wouldnt take online screening tests as a diagnosis or even as a possible sign, because they aren't very reliable (even the ones on actual psychiatric websites!), so I wouldn't worry too much about them. No-one on here can diagnose you and neither can your friends - however old and intelligent they are, they aren't psychiatrists or psychologists :) don't take their word as gospel!
Everyone gets bouts of paranoia, but if it's starting to affect your everyday life then go and see your GP and they'll see what they can do which can range from referring you to a (child) psychologist or treating you themselves!

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Adolescent development can produce many things in mind & body. So many changes happening on your way to adulthood. Going to your family doctor may sound icky, but it's the best thing anyone here can advise you.
Take care. :flowers:
 
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It is most definitely affecting my life. I do not want to socialize, I do not care about getting a boyfriend like every other girl in the world, because I think people will try to kill me. I spend hours searching my room before I go to bed because I get warning bells that there is someone there. I cry for no reason. I draw pictures of tortured people :( I cannot tell my parents, therefore I cannot get help. Is there any self help I could do perhaps??
 
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With all respect please do not tell me it is adolescent development, whatever is happening it is causing me to self harm. I am losing my friends and I do not leave the house except for school.
 
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It is most definitely affecting my life. I do not want to socialize, I do not care about getting a boyfriend like every other girl in the world, because I think people will try to kill me. I spend hours searching my room before I go to bed because I get warning bells that there is someone there. I cry for no reason. I draw pictures of tortured people :( I cannot tell my parents, therefore I cannot get help. Is there any self help I could do perhaps??
If you feel you can't tell your parents then you dont have to, you can however see your GP. If you can't tell him/her then book an appointment and print this thread out and show them it :). Your paranoia could be down to anything - even something physical and with you being so young you'll find your GP will do anything to try and find something physical before they slap you with a big diagnosis of a mental illness (even if its found not to be schizophrenia) so don't write yourself off just yet :), But if you find that writing down your problems here helps you then by all means do it it's what the forums here for!

The tortured drawing aren't anything to be worried about, I draw things like that still and I've been doing it since nursery - as has my boyfriend and he doesn't have a mental illness :) :hug:
 
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I'll remember that Lozzi, thank you.
 
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It's just that I fit the symptons of several disorders so I decided to come here for your view. Thank you for your help.
 
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I've been looking into some of the online tests you can do and most of them do say "these are not to be used as a diagnosis tool" Below I've copied and pasted the results of two tests I took from this website; http://psychcentral.com/
As you can see I scored really high on the bipolar quiz, which was of no surprise because that's what I have and I'm currently unmedicated so I was expecting a high score and as it were, scored the highest! I also scored highly on the schizophrenia one, but I haven't got that and my pdoc doesn't think so either, nor have they ever expressed anything towards the matter even though I suffer from pychosis!

I suppose what I'm trying to get at is don't think that just because you scored points in a quiz on the internet and it says you are showing signs of schizophrenia then it doesn't mean you have it! Most are pretty unreliable, as I've tried to show! The best thing you can do chick is visit your GP, they can't tell your parents or anyone else as it's all confidential!

I hope this doesn't come across as a lecture because it's not meant to be I'm just trying to point out that these quizzes aren't reliable :)


"Results of your
Schizophrenia Screening Quiz
Please note, this quiz has limited validity.
Please interpret the below results cautiously.


You scored a total of 14


Based upon your responses to this schizophrenia screening measure, you appear to have some early signs commonly associated with schizophrenia or a schizophrenia-related disorder. Your responses are similar to others who experience early symptoms of schizophrenia or a schizophrenia-related disorder. Because no online test is 100% accurate, please be aware that this does not necessarily mean you do have schizophrenia, only that this particular quiz found sufficient evidence to suggest that you may.

You should not take this as a diagnosis of any sort, or a recommendation for treatment. However, if would be advisable and likely beneficial for you to seek further verification and to see if you qualify for a schizophrenia or schizophrenia-related diagnosis from a trained mental health professional as soon as possible in order to rule out a possible schizophrenia or psychotic disorder. "



"Results of your
Bipolar Quiz

You scored a total of 57


Based upon your responses to this bipolar screening quiz, you appear to be suffering from severe symptoms associated with a bipolar disorder. People who have answered similarly to you typically qualify for a diagnosis of Bipolar I Disorder and have sought professional treatment for this disorder.

You should not take this as a diagnosis of any sort, or a recommendation for treatment. However, it would be advisable and likely beneficial for you to seek further diagnosis from a trained mental health professional immediately.


Save Your Results!
Register now (or sign in now if you're already a member) to save these quiz results. (You must be logged-in first.)


S C O R E S If you scored...
You may have...
51 & up
Bipolar disorder
- Serious symptoms
36 - 50
Bipolar disorder
- Moderate to severe symptoms
25 - 35
Bipolar disorder likely
16 - 24
Either a mild bipolar disorder (II) or depressive disorder
10 - 15
Possible depressive disorder
0 - 9
No disorder likely


This is not meant as a diagnosis tool. "
 
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I took the "Sanity" test -

Attention! Phobias: People with scores similar to yours typically are diagnosed with a simple or specific phobia, which is an irrational fear of certain objects or situations, such as being afraid of heights, snakes, or enclosed spaces. Generally most people with this kind of concern simply avoid the object or situation. If it is of serious concern, often people with similar scores will seek out professional help to cure the person of the irrational fear. Such therapy usually only takes a dozen or so sessions, and in some cases much less.

Attention! Technology Issues: People with scores similar to yours often complain about having difficulty controlling their time or use of the Internet and other technologies. People with this sort of problem often identify it as being "addicted to the Internet." Some therapists may be able to help you with this issue and reduce your Internet use or use of other technologies so that it interferes less with important relationships in your life, such as those with your friends, family, or significant other.

Attention! Post traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD): People with scores similar to yours often have traits associated with posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), a disorder characterized by reliving a suffered trauma through flashbacks, nightmares or other recollections of the event. This is a serious concern that often requires professional treatment.

Recommendations

Attention! You have 3 serious concerns that we've identified. Generally such concerns should be checked out with a mental health professional as soon as you can. You can find a mental health professional within your local community through your insurance provider or through an online therapist directory. Get help immediately if these concerns are overwhelming or you feel your health or safety is at risk.

You have 8 milder concerns that we've identified. Such concerns may be a part of an ordinary person's usual up's and down's in life. However, if any of these issues cause you worry or concern, please consult with your physician or a mental health professional for further information.
Pretty accurate really; for an on-line test.

Here's a good one for all you internet addicts - (myself included)

http://psychcentral.com/quizzes/netaddiction.htm
 
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Inhteresting site Lozzi I've just spent ages on it.
 
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monsters: I cannot tell my parents, therefore I cannot get help.

A factor you should consider...

You are a minor. That means that in most legal situations, your parents are your legal guardians. Legal situations include medical care. Typically, what would happen is you would tell your parents, they would accompany you to the doctor, and your parents -- together with medical professionals -- would make the decisions regarding your treatment.

I'm not certain what would happen if you went to your GP and he/she determined you required medication, therapy or hositalization. I imagine your GP would contact your parents at that time unless you could present some compelling and pressing reason for why they shouldn't. Not wanting to upset your parents would probably not be considered a compelling reason; not wanting to get beaten within an inch of your life probably would.

You've stated that you can't tell your parents but you haven't stated why that's so. It could be that you don't wish to alarm them, or you feel they won't listen, or maybe you feel they'll accuse you of making a big deal out of nothing. Then again, maybe there's a more serious situation going on at home. Maybe you'll get hit if you tell; maybe you'll get locked in your room for weeks on end; maybe you'll get thrown out of the house. You know why you don't want to tell your parents, we don't.

If you are concerned that you'll upset your parents, let us know and we might be able to offer some suggestions that can help you tell them. In an ideal situation, your best option is to tell your parents because they're going to find out anyway if you go see a doctor and you require medical treatment. Also, usually, but not always, your parents are the people in your life who care about you more than anyone else. If you need help, the people who love you most are usually the best people to go to for help.

If you can't tell your parents because you might be harmed or hurt as a result of doing so, that's a different kind of situation that should probably be dealt with first before doing anything else. If you absolutely cannot tell your parents for that kind of reason, here's some suggestions for other people you could talk to...

- Another family member such as an aunt, uncle, or grandparent
- A friend of the family or the parent of your best friend
- A school teacher or school counsellor
- A professional therapist, counsellor or psychologist
- A leader of your religious congregation such as a pastor or youth leader

There may be a teen crisis hotline in your area that can offer more specific suggestions.

Whoever you do tell, they should be someone who is an adult, someone you like and trust, someone who is part of your routine, face-to-face world, and someone who knows and cares about you. If there's absolutely no one like that in your life, a temporary legal guardian can be assigned to you. A professional such as your family doctor or school counsellor could initiate that process for you.

Ideally, you should have that person or persons in place before you make any arrangements for medical care because you will not be permitted to make your own treatment decisions -- a parent or legal guardian must make them for you.

Is there any self help I could do perhaps??

When you're 12 years old and you're going through a personal crisis, having adults around that you can trust and talk to is self-help. Ensuring you have at least one adult like that in your life is probably the most important thing you could do. Find an adult like that, talk to them and then figure out what your next step should be. They can help you with those decisions.

Best of luck to you monsters.

~ Namaste


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A few more thoughts for you monsters...

I went through your posts above and separated out what would be considered "symptoms". I've listed those below:

- I do not hear voices, however,
- I am certain that there is someone watching everything I do, 24/7
- this person is judging and criticising me.
- I do not want to socialize
- I do not care about getting a boyfriend like every other girl in the world, because I think people will try to kill me.
- I spend hours searching my room before I go to bed because I get warning bells that there is someone there.
- I cry for no reason
- I draw pictures of tortured people
- It is causing me to self harm
- I am losing my friends
- I do not leave the house except for school

If you were speaking with a professional such as your doctor or school counselor, those are the "symptoms" you'd want to tell them about. However symptoms provide only a tiny view of what's actually happening in your life because they don't place your responses in context. For example, imagine you walk into a room and see a person shrieking and leaping up and down. Shrieking and leaping up and down are symptoms. Now imagine you walk into the same room ten seconds earlier just in time to see them spill a cup of boiling tea into their lap -- that's context. Now that you know about the spilled tea, you understand why they might be yelling and jumping around the room. Symptoms describe responses but context helps us begin to understand why we (or others) respond to things the way we do.

Every "symptom" that you describe above is a response to something that is happening in your life. It could be that you're experiencing a great deal of stress at this time, maybe there's a history of trauma, maybe your endocrine system is out of balance, maybe there's some other reason. Sometimes it can be baffling trying to figure out what the reasons are on your own and in some cases, only medical tests can provide the necessary context, i.e., you can't know how well your thyroid is functioning without a medical test to determine your thyroid levels.

All of those symptoms you describe are also symptoms that adults sometimes have difficulty dealing with. I've known some very resilient kids but it would be a lot to cope with on your own. You asked about self help and there are some simple things you can do: adequate rest, good nutrition, exercise, reducing stress in the areas where you can, etc. But your ability to help yourself is going to be tied to the extent of life experience you have as coupled with your personal power. At 12 years of age, people tend to have only a little of both which is why they often need to have some adults on their side -- it helps balance out the power imbalance.

I'm concerned that you won't reach for help because you don't want your parents to find out. No one here can make you do anything you don't want to do of course, but it wouldn't hurt for you to come up with a back-up plan just in case you reach a point that you need help fast. Can you think of at least one adult in your life you could go to if you absolutely had to? (Having a choice of three would be even better.) If you needed to see a doctor, could you see your regular family doctor or would you prefer to see someone else? If you wanted to pursue some form of talk therapy, do you have the names of some therapists you could talk to?

If you could gather up the names, phone numbers and contact information of those people and tuck them away somewhere -- in a notebook, in a mailbox on the web, in your locker at school -- then, if it became necessary, you would have a plan in place to get yourself some help. (That's also self-help.)

I usually suggest that people should seek help in the following circumstances:
- If you think you need it.
- If you want to hurt yourself.
- If you want to hurt someone else.

If you are feeling any of the above, it's an indication that you are running dry on coping skills and you need some back-up.


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