seroquel

[Apotheosis]

It's possible but I really don't know. Speaking of which, I've had dreams as a child, back in the 80's, one of which I was driving down the beach front in a car in the 70's. I knew it was the 70's because the car was from that time and all my mates in the car had hairstyles and clothes from that period. I remember feeling really happy and confident in that one . There are dreams which took place in the medieval times that were depressing and frightening but also in some time periods afterwards. Could these all be past lives ? It's possible. . .

My paradigm isn't the Bio-Medical, scientific reductionist, materialistic one.

There is an idea, that as the Soul progresses in maturity, through dreams & other experiences, the Soul starts to become aware while incarnated, of it's other incarnations.

You may like this book - I would highly recommend it -

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=P...age&q=&f=false

http://snoedel.moorelife.nl/Journey_...ael_Newton.pdf

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Journey-Soul...0967154&sr=8-1

You would know the hidden realm
where all souls dwell.
The journey's way lies
through death's misty fell.
Within this timeless passage
a guiding light does dance,
Lost from conscious memory,
but visible in trance.

M.N.

[ntuc]

Following a visit from the C.T. I was perscribed seroquel at 50mg (to be increased this week) which i have been taking for the last 2.5 weeks. It was perscribed to balance my moods (mainly stop impulsive thinking or help reduce it anyway) and to help me sleep.

During the first week I slept really well. managing more hours than normal however this seemed to change on Thursday night last week, I didnt get to sleep until nearly 6.00 am on Friday morning. Saturday wasn't so bad, but last night I only managed 4 hours sleep and tonight only 1.5.

I wake up feeling exhausted, really tired to the point my eyes are stinging but even so still can't sleep. I have kept to a sleeping routine, tried a bath before bed, warm drink, lavender pillow sprays etc as well as taking the seroquel.

Has anyone else has similar sleep issues with seroquel?

Well, I have actually experienced what you are going through now with this antipsychotic drug called Seroquel for my schizophrenia disorder.


Initially, Seroquel did induce a very deep drowsiness effect in me until I felt very much sleepy and then just dozed off automatically even many times without me realizing that until I woke up the next morning. So, in the beginning, I should say that this Seroquel is far more effective and works far better than other sleeping pills in making me to get to sleep.


However, as time goes by, the drowsiness and sleepy effects of this Seroquel just wears off gradually and higher and higher dosages are needed to achieve the similar curative and drowsiness effects as before (eg. from 50 mg to 100 mg / 200 mg). As for its curative effects for my schizoprenia disorder, Seroquel actually did a very good job initially in controlling my mood and temper whenever its medication effects, which lasted for a couple of hours for each and every single pill, were still in order. However, my experiences were such that each time I stopped taking Seroquel especially during daytime when I needed to drive and work and hence, couldn't afford to get drowsy and sleepy, I simply just became inexplicably hot-tempered, irritable and cranky, to the extent of scolding lots of people, even the strangers, many times even without me realising that, and my mood and temper were substantially beyond my control during such occasions.


Whilst for the sleeping issue, as time went by, I simply needed to rely entirely on this Seroquel's deep sleepy and drowsiness effects in order to get to sleep. In short, without the Seroquel, I just couldn't get to sleep at all.


Subsequently, after I sought a second opinion from the other psychiatrist, he just explained to me that every medicine, no matter how effective they are, they would still eventually develop tolerances in our human bodies especially when they are fed to the human bodies repeatedly, until such a stage whereby they would become no longer effective anymore regardless of how high / higher the dosage of the same medication is being used.


Besides, as for the curative effects of Seroquel in controlling one's mood and temper in dealing with one's schizophrenia disorder, the therapeutical theory behind such a healing mechanism is such that, whenever each Seroquel pill takes its healing effect, the neurological curative effects of Seroquel would artificially block any negative nerve impulses (feelings) from getting sent to one's brain, and hence that would temporarily and artificially stop a person from feeling depressed, angry, upset etc. However, once the curative effects of each Seroquel pill just tapers off and is not continued with the intake of the next dosage, the negative emotions / feelings which have been artificially suppressed / restrained before by such a medication would then just eventually burst out and manifest in a person as unavoidable negative behavioural / personality changes, and in most cases, that's largely uncontrollable and even unaware by the related individuals.


In such a connection, I had also been advised by many psychiatrists and other related medical specialists that, as far as mental disorders are concerned, the more practical and realistic solution to such disorders is such that whilst taking the related drugs to curb and bring down the uncontrollable symptoms of mental disorders, such as feelings of deep depressions, deep hallucinations, violent emotional outbursts etc, essentially at the same time, other non-medicational efforts of emotional and communication supports from the others etc to cheer, brighten and lift up one's mood and spirit as well as the related self-control efforts of one's very own (to control one's mood and tempers) should thus also be taken as well together with the related medications to deal with such mental disorders more effectively towards the goals of gradual improvements as well as final and full recoveries.



Related Medical References :


http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1112473#i

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1530443#i

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1534333#i

[Bluemoon]

My paradigm isn't the Bio-Medical, scientific reductionist, materialistic one.

There is an idea, that as the Soul progresses in maturity, through dreams & other experiences, the Soul starts to become aware while incarnated, of it's other incarnations.

On AstralDynamics.com there has been some discussion of this on their forum regarding this awareness.

You may like this book - I would highly recommend it -

I've actually had that one on my shelf for a long while, but read it just the once a few years ago. I also have the other books in that series by the same author. They are very good reads and offer lots of information in the subject area.

You would know the hidden realm
where all souls dwell.
The journey's way lies
through death's misty fell.
Within this timeless passage
a guiding light does dance,
Lost from conscious memory,
but visible in trance.

M.N.

Good poem.

[Apotheosis]

On AstralDynamics.com there has been some discussion of this on their forum regarding this awareness.

Thanks for the link; I will check it out - do you post on there?

I've actually had that one on my shelf for a long while, but read it just the once a few years ago. I also have the other books in that series by the same author. They are very good reads and offer lots of information in the subject area.

I have all his books too.

What's your take on what we have experienced in regards to altered states - is it biological/pathological? - or - something else? - or - Both?

[Bluemoon]

Thanks for the link; I will check it out - do you post on there?

I used to post on there fairly often, but I don't post on there much any more.

I have all his books too.

What's your take on what we have experienced in regards to altered states - is it biological/pathological? - or - something else? - or - Both?

I think altered states are a spiritual phenomenon but you can say biology and pathology has its influences on these states. One interesting way of thinking is that our waking lives are experienced from a very low state of awareness as we go about business and getting things done each day. When we sleep, I believe we actually experience ourselves fully and our sub-concious/un-concious minds emerge letting us explore our fears, needs, desires and to make aware of life lessons that are presenting themselves both right now and in the future.

Another way of looking at it is that when we are concious, we are just experiencing ourselves from a top-level - like the last stone on the top of a pyramid. We are aware of a limited amount of information. When we are fully aware of our sub-concious and un-concious minds ( when sleeping ) then we are revealing the rest of the stones of that pyramid below. These stones are memories and past experiences and knowledge but also the rest of who we are as a being.

I believe that altered states of awareness are just that, going down to different levels of conciousness within ourselves. But what I describe above sounds like normal conciousness is actually us asleep and when we are asleep we are actually awake as ourselves completely.

I have got that train of though from a Coast to Coast radio show video on Youtube I watched recently and it resonates well with me. Interesting that word "resonate" as in "vibration" and like vibrations attract spiritually .

Now I need a .

[Apotheosis]

I think altered states are a spiritual phenomenon but you can say biology and pathology has its influences on these states. One interesting way of thinking is that our waking lives are experienced from a very low state of awareness as we go about business and getting things done each day. When we sleep, I believe we actually experience ourselves fully and our sub-concious/un-concious minds emerge letting us explore our fears, needs, desires and to make aware of life lessons that are presenting themselves both right now and in the future.

Another way of looking at it is that when we are concious, we are just experiencing ourselves from a top-level - like the last stone on the top of a pyramid. We are aware of a limited amount of information. When we are fully aware of our sub-concious and un-concious minds ( when sleeping ) then we are revealing the rest of the stones of that pyramid below. These stones are memories and past experiences and knowledge but also the rest of who we are as a being.

I believe that altered states of awareness are just that, going down to different levels of conciousness within ourselves. But what I describe above sounds like normal conciousness is actually us asleep and when we are asleep we are actually awake as ourselves completely.

I have got that train of though from a Coast to Coast radio show video on Youtube I watched recently and it resonates well with me. Interesting that word "resonate" as in "vibration" and like vibrations attract spiritually .

Now I need a .

Hi Blue Moon - It's a good description - Holistic, expansive, & Jungian. I think similar.

- & the 'psychotic' or altered states can open up the 'rest of the stones of the pyramid' & an awareness of other levels of our consciousness/unconsciousness & maybe other levels of reality - an awareness of the multi dimensional nature of things.

I have listened to quite a few of the 'Coast to Coast' broadcasts - they can be interesting & intelligent.

It is an interesting question as to how much of what is going on in altered states is pathological? - & how much is something else entirely. I try to take a more multi faceted & expansive view on these things.

It's interesting chatting with you as always.

[Bluemoon]

It's interesting chatting with you as always.

And with you Apotheosis .