Emotionally unstable- but which benefits?

[schizzzoid]

back.

You raise a good point when you say that you 'would rather starve than do something that you cannot do'. I've had thoughts going round and round and round (I get a tad obsessive, to say the least!) about how can I survive without benefits, and, thinking it'd be better to live on the street, then I'd be no trouble to anyone, etc. These are thoughts I can well do without. I've spent years dealing with my own negative thinking and low self esteem, only to have a whole slew of new crap pushed into my head by the DWP! And, they say they are only trying to help...

[dib4uk]

Well currently I'm not getting any money- i recieved one payment for ESA but my certificate run out begining of August. A combination of things have meant that I have no money.

1. My Doctor being away on holiday.
2. When said Doctor came back, I requested another certificate.
3. The Doctor has refused to give me a certificate. Because she refused to give me another certificate ESA cant be paid to me.
4. My doctor said that I need to appeal- which I am doing, but, still i need a certificate.
5. I've got an appointment tomorrow to see my doctor.

6. My GP should have received my diagnoses by now, and by not helping me, how on earth can I help myself?
7. I spoke to Mind as well as an outside hours mental health line- they all said the doctor needs to give me a certificate.

Yeah too right

It is disgusting that I have to go without any money for this long. I had to max out one of my three credit cards so I can pay for other bills. I'm worried incase tomorrow the doctors still wont give me a certificate. I'm just so lucky that I do have an advocate. How can Doctors be soo irresponsible as not to give out certificates.

What if after tomorrow she still dont give me a certificate? I cant apply for any more benefits so until the hearing I'm basically stranded with no money for nothing, just to be dependant on my mother who is recieving unemployment benefit.

The system is bad.

[penelope]

oh dib

I feel so bad for you.

I suppose by beating ourselves up about it is not the thing to do. But it is like a minefield.

I have decided too that advocacy is the road to follow and not on my own, thanks to you two,

Dwp should be able to give some money surely. Even if you cannot get the ESA they must have to give you unemployment benefit. There must be some sort of payment. Have they not offered you anything Dib?

[schizzzoid]

dib, I'm just off out to dig up my special voodoo tools. Extreme times, call for extreme measures!

On the serious side tho'. There is an interim payment (£35-ish, I think) that they are supposed to pay whilst claims are being dealt with or in dispute, I don't now what it's called though, or whether you qualify... There were, years ago, trusts/charities that could also help, unfortunately, you needed to be referred by the DSS - I had the (mis)fortune to use one of them, I felt rather guilty, and mentioned this, only to be told that they had more money than they could get rid of, as hardly anyone got referred! (I was incredibly lucky, maybe I should say bizarrely lucky, to get a sympathetic DSS manager, who kept on mistaking me for one of her friends' sons'!)

I hope this gets resolved as soon as possible, so you can start getting on with 'resolving' yourself. I don't really know what to suggest, except going to your GP, explaining everything all over again, and then adding that this is making you worse, all weekend worrying, no sleep, can't eat, give me a 1000 valium... I'm not suggesting you lie, that's not a good thing, GPs like honesty, just lay it on extra thick! It's as if they don't see the seriousness of things sometimes.

Anyway, I've got some juju to do!

[dib4uk]

Aww thanks guys and girls, but sadly going to my doctor didn't do much good. So once again I called the DWP and they will write a letter to the doctor.



I did start a claim form for JSA, but last month when I recieved the letter saying that I can claim ESA I showed it to the jobcenter people who said that I dont have to sign on anymore.

My doctor didnt say that I'm ill/unwell, all she said was the psychotherapy will help me to become more stable. However as I'm not getting any psychotherapy as of yet- how can I be stable?

I'm sooo far into a catch 22 situation that two things might help my situation. 1. Being admitted to hospital. 2. Winning the lottery.



I know myself if I was stable enough I'd be working. The joke is- that I had to stop going to my counselling because I didnt have any money, and now that I need it more than ever, I cant go.

For me personally a job- is sooo far off into the future that its like being size 0, I'm a size 24 lol.
I need to know that I wont flare up, hurt people, or myself, and control my moods and then get a job, but it seems to me that I need to get a job and then get the therapy.

[penelope]

Exactly , you do know yourself and I admire your courage so far in all of this.

They have to give you some money. If I was next door I would give you some money.

Keep in there we are behind you

xxxxxxxxxxxx

[Marchhare]

"it seems to me that I need to get a job and then get the therapy."

Thats what I feel about the Psychology that I have been refused "not ready for".
They want you to be well and ticking all their boxes before they will consider you. If I was well I wouldent need it!!!!
m

[dib4uk]

"it seems to me that I need to get a job and then get the therapy."

Thats what I feel about the Psychology that I have been refused "not ready for".
They want you to be well and ticking all their boxes before they will consider you. If I was well I wouldent need it!!!!
m

Yeah its like a fight that the psychiatrist, cpn and everyone who works in that field are trying to be coherst towards the thinking of the DWP.

On one camp you've got the non cowboys who are the medically trained individuals who see people like us all the time, and they listen and deem us neeedy. However on the other side of the ranch - are the cowboys- their tough as old nails, brought up on fried beans and curd??? and they dont take nooo for an anserw.

What the DWP is trying to do apparently- is to encourage psychiatrist to comply to their wishes. Or should I have called them the borg?



And because I'm that sort of person who hates injustice of it- when I become rather manic/hyper I wish to right the wrongs of the world. This time I'm gonna start with the DWP and Atos.

What the gerneral public dont know about Atos is that it is an American company paid to tell people who are sick that they're fit for work.

[Devon]

The DWP are a nightmare and a law unto themselves.

It makes it worse when you consider that those persons within the DWP known collectively as "decision makers" who decide what benefits and levels you can get are NOT medically qualified.

I recently, after a long & protracted battle, finally managed to get DLA high rate care from them but you really need to have a lot of support from your shrink or doctor.

[kaykay]

Iam on income support and just been told i need to have Psychotherapy is there any think else I can cleam on top off my income support